Hitters clubface at top

[bray]

A swinger continues to End to load the pressure on the top of the shaft, where the hitter stops at Top (right shoulder high and on plane) to load the pressure on the back of the shaft. In all cases, the left palm will lay flat to the plane at top for both.

In rereading this post the above quote cleared the fog for me. I never understood what the advantage was for the hitter stopping at Top instead of side or end, but now I definetly do. When stopping at Top the shaft is completely loaded on the back. At side it is not fully loaded, and at end it is loaded on top of the shaft.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

[YodasLuke]

In rereading this post the above quote cleared the fog for me. I never understood what the advantage was for the hitter stopping at Top instead of side or end, but now I definetly do. When stopping at Top the shaft is completely loaded on the back. At side it is not fully loaded, and at end it is loaded on top of the shaft.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

As Yoda would say...
Young he is, but strong is the force...

[EdZ]

When I stopped trying to keep the clubhead behind everything and started trying to keep the grip in front of everything, my game changed forever.

Now that's good.

Really good.

The two patterns coming together to a "T"

Hall of Fame Ted! This place is just too much fun

[YodasLuke]

The two patterns coming together to a "T"

Hall of Fame Ted! This place is just too much fun

Since my wife is a licensed counselor who specializes in the sisterhood of G.O.L.F. widows and she's been watching me respond to all these posts, she wanted to offer her services to all the widows of the Kool-aid drinkers. She said she can attend any of our future G.O.L.F. schools to help the ladies cope. Her code name is Princess Leia. She'll be attending all of the schools in exotic locations.

[8cork]

When I stopped trying to keep the clubhead behind everything and started trying to keep the grip in front of everything, my game changed forever.[/quote]

Ted, could you further expand on this quote, I have been concentrating on dragging the clubhead through impact. Should my focus be more on the grip end??

[YodasLuke]

When I stopped trying to keep the clubhead behind everything and started trying to keep the grip in front of everything, my game changed forever.

Ted, could you further expand on this quote, I have been concentrating on dragging the clubhead through impact. Should my focus be more on the grip end??[/quote]

I was under the impression for a long time that I had to 'keep' the clubhead from passing my hands. It made me 'keep' my right arm bent (accumulator lag) too long. I always felt the need to hold everything back. The epiphany came when I realized that the clubhead didn't want to go forward (law of inertia). Everyone had always told me about "clubhead" lag, but I heard new terminology: lag "pressure". I realized that PRESSURE against the handle being greater than that of the momentum of the clubhead would keep the handle winning the race to the ball.
Pulling with centripetal force or pushing with muscular drive can create lag pressure. Because hitters load the pressure on the back of the shaft at top, we have the luxury of carrying that lag pressure (felt in the #3 pressure point) from top through impact. The swinger, on the other hand, loads the pressure on top of the shaft. When using a snap release, the #3 pressure point rotates very late to a position that's behind the shaft.
Other terminology that I hate to hear is "clubhead speed." I'd rather be able to measure someone's "hand speed."

[bray]

\Other terminology that I hate to hear is "clubhead speed." I'd rather be able to measure someone's "hand speed."

Aren't the hands actually moving slower than the clubhead though because they are gradually rotating as they move into impact and through to the follow through postion.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the hands travel a much shorter distance than the clubhead from the parallel to the base line on the downswing(Mac's P5) position through follow through.

That being said hand speed would be considerably slower than clubhead speed. Correct???

So well it may be easier to measure clubhead speed, the hitter should work on increasing hand speed.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

[MBCpro]

Hand speed is dependent on release type, the earlier the release the higher hand speed needed to produce the yardage equivalent to that of a short quick arc of the maxixmum delay per Mr. Kelley.
Tom Watson with his sweep release has much more handspeed than Ben Hogan with his snap release.
Rather than clubhead speed or hand speed shouldn't the focus be on ball speed, resistance to the deceleration of impact?


todd

[EC]

Hand speed is dependent on release type, the earlier the release the higher hand speed needed to produce the yardage equivalent to that of a short quick arc of the maxixmum delay per Mr. Kelley.
Tom Watson with his sweep release has much more handspeed than Ben Hogan with his snap release.
Rather than clubhead speed or hand speed shouldn't the focus be on ball speed, resistance to the deceleration of impact?


todd

Yo Todd,

Sounds like you're a proponent of sustaining the line of compression! Man, you'd better call Philly and thank him for that "gift" Monday night. My Cats will let your Boys know whose for real Christmas Eve!

Don't be a stranger,

EC

[YodasLuke]

Hand speed is dependent on release type, the earlier the release the higher hand speed needed to produce the yardage equivalent to that of a short quick arc of the maxixmum delay per Mr. Kelley.
Tom Watson with his sweep release has much more handspeed than Ben Hogan with his snap release.
Rather than clubhead speed or hand speed shouldn't the focus be on ball speed, resistance to the deceleration of impact?


todd

"resistance to the deceleration of impact"...a primary concern of the hitter. As we are in the Emergency Room for Hitters, snap releases are TABOO! No maximum delay for me. Horizontal hinging would give me the heebie jeebies.