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08-21-2005, 10:01 AM
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Yoda Pics -- What You See Is What You Get
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Here are a few photos -- compare to frames 5 and 6 of the Ben Hogan sequence -- taken by my friend Mark Roughsedge, GSEM, during our recent Workshop in Germany. Despite the compelling similarity, at no time have I ever attempted to emulate Ben's swing. This is just what you get when you build a true Golfing Machine Stroke (12-2-0).
There are some down-the-line views as well, and I'll put them up soon in a post on the experience. Meanwhile...
Mathew, how about some triangles? Thanks!

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08-21-2005, 11:07 AM
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I made tons of mistakes in editing these pictures here, but it will give you the basic idea
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08-21-2005, 12:16 PM
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Another Tip Of The Cap
Thanks, Mathew!
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08-21-2005, 01:57 PM
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Ben Hogan And Yoda: Downstroke And Release
Heres another look.....

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08-21-2005, 03:03 PM
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What everyone has already seen:
Yoda and BH's swings show stunning resemblance. It is also stunning how - for some reason - the shutters the the two cameras are virtually synchronized. Hands, arms, lag, legs - everything.
I am amazed. Especialy efter browsing through the swings I have on file without finding a single one even close to the same positions.
How can you not start thinking about a nosedive in The Yellow Book after seeing these pictures.
=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
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08-21-2005, 04:14 PM
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Re: Another Tip Of The Cap
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Thanks, Mathew!
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That is definitely eye opening! But quite frankly not suprising at all. I have seen the Yoda move in person. Pictures are amazing, but to see it live in full dynamic glory is a site to behold. Pure as the driven snow.
Yoda . . . Question. Hogan was a manipulated hands swinger. Yoda is able to demonstrate both, but has a bent towards Hitting. Were you Hitting here? Or are the alignments the same just the difference in the power source?
Also Wiener schnitzel vs. fried chicken and collards?
Great pics! Thanks Yoda, Annikan, and Mathew!
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08-21-2005, 04:31 PM
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Swingin' In Deutschland
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Yoda...Were you Hitting here?
Also Wiener schnitzel vs. fried chicken and collards?
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Swinging, 12 Piece. Swinging.
Then I demo'ed Hitting, but I don't think Mark got any of those on his still camera. Another of the group, Alan Hendry, GSEM, did, but unfortunately his camera was stolen in a car theft the last night of our school.
Regarding der wiener schnitzel...
Nein.
Ich bien ein brachtwurst und bratkartoffeln man myself!
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08-21-2005, 04:51 PM
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Master Yoda,
Great Pics...
Captain Lag up up and away!!!!
The crowd is Chanting
WE need more !!!!
We need More!!!
The crowd is still Chanting
Could ya put the Swing next to the Hit frames to compare when you get some more pics?
...PLEASE
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08-21-2005, 05:04 PM
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Swingin' In The (German) Rain
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Master Yoda,
Could ya put the Swing next to the Hit frames to compare?
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Sorry, Annikan, we don't have a Hitting Stroke. There weren't many. All the School participants were Swingers, and I was in a Swingin' mood!
But we'll get something out soon, probably as part of the Long Game DVD with V. J. Trolio. Also, we'll do the front view of Ted Fort's Sand Wedge (down-the-line view in the Gallery), and we'll film a Driver Shot next week (during the School with Ben Doyle, Brian Manzella and Michael Finney) for a Dartfish analysis as well.
Now that I think of it...
A side-by-side of Ted (pure Hitter) and Mike (pure Swinger)...
Now that will be a Hitting versus Swinging analysis worth waiting for!
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08-21-2005, 07:28 PM
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Yes! Do it! Do it!
...and while you're at it, can you get a true DTL view of your swing Lynn? The other one is kind of a weird angle...
That would be awesome-wicked-deadly-cool, daddio (wink and gun).

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