A 21 hcp Discovers the Magic of the Vertically Uncocking Left Wrist
Let me start by telling everyone how much I appreciate this site and the encouragement of Kevin, Jerry, Daryl, OB Left, and 12 Piece Bucket.
The first quote I include is from OB Left:
Id suggest that Yoda's video demonstration of an active vertical hammering/uncocking done by the left WRIST (only) was an example of a Non Automatic Release Trigger. Homer believed the path to an Automatic Snap Release was via a Non Automatic Trigger. The common Swingers Non Auto Trigger being the Left Wrist Throw. 10-20-E
The advantage of this Active Vertical uncocking is that it makes Horizontal motion less likely and also gives you more DOWN and therefore OUT. So less Steering and more In to Out on the Approach Angle. See 2-C-0.
The hacker typically tries to take the back of the ball right towards the hole , a misguided application of linear force. Logical but fatal for a side on game played with hooked clubs and a circular orbit. For balls played back of low point, most every shot therefore the ball is taken DOWN , OUT and FORWARD. For pure compression the Sweetspot on the clubface must stay in contact with the ball as if welded together and together they must travel Down and Out (to right field), the Inclined Plane demands it. The ball leaves at 90 degrees to the face at Separation meaning the face is Open at Impact. The geometry is not what everyone thinks it is at first.
The Active application of a Downward force will give you some Out given the Angled Plane..............a great thing for the new TGM er to add to his impact geometry. Add some Horizontal Hinging and voila! PUre compression.
Im wondering if this application of Downward force is best perceived as an On Plane force or a truly Downward force? Homer said that the On Plane travel of the Clubhead was a result of divergent forces after all. The Pivot providing the OUT, the Left Hand uncocking providing the DOWN etc etc . See the 2-N-1 Force Vectors.
Do we Hammer Down and just let the PIvot and CF take it along the Inclined Plane? Maybe Im talking crazy talk? Again.
City, with all due respect................we are taking thread jacking to new level again. Even Mike O. would disapprove and he is the ThreadMasta Jacka of all time. Future generations trying to archive our insights will have one heck of time unearthing these pearls of wisdom. We must protect our legacy for future generations , the Alignment Golfers who will follow us in this quest.
Why dont you start a thread on the Yoda video. There is a lot to discuss there. Lynn has added a wrinkle to the Throw, maybe, I think. A good one too. Or maybe he just asked Homer for clarification? I dunno.
Tonight, after practicing my pivot control of my hands for about 50 shots including a wide variety of chips, I got bored with hitting the ball down the middle and twisting does not help my artificial left hip and back. Plus, my front leg is 1.5 " shorter than my back (right leg).
So, let's investigate RFT and vertical hinge as a way to find power, precision and less wear and tear on this 52 year old body with a metal rod and two hip replacements.
Let's start with Lynn Blake's very simple video you can watch here:
I have watched this video a lot over the winter and now during our cold Springs and thought "Man, how great would it be if the swing was that simple!" I'm a teacher and I really love showing people more effective paths to anything. Tonight, a man named Billy from New Orleans was spraying balls all over the place with no real technique.
I showed Billy the vertical uncocking with the left wrist into the ground and showed him how to do it on plane. He couldn't stop laughing and his chips with his left hand were like bb's and mostly straight. I showed him a few vertical hinge, waist high swings. that were the simplist push back and slowly turn through as the left hinge just screamed down the plane and around. The ball was high, and down the middle with PW and a 200 yard 3 hybrid (19 degrees), alternating.
But I do not want to swing, even easily, 80-90 times a round. I want to be more efficient with my mechanics.
I adopted Yoda's video stance, pulled my RFT angle hinge from mid-body and pushed directly down using pp#1. It took me awhile to figure out that I could stand closer to the ball due to the efficiency of the club movement on plane. I also discovered that mid-body hands allowed me to feel the back elbow going straight back along my ribcage for RFT. Nice kinetic guidelines!
I started with old (ADAMS 2) woods including a tour brassie, 13 degree 3 wood and 19 degree 5 wood. It was cold and rainy, and I could never hit the brassie before tonight. I skinned it from my front heel and knew it would fade left. It cut pretty well (20 yards) at about the 200 yard marker using AH (angle hinge). I slid the ball back on the brassie to just in front of the belt buckle and the brassie ballooned about 230 yards in the air before I lost sight of it down the middle.
Using the HH (horizontal hinge) was ridiculous! I had to use a strong grip to get the vertical feeling on plane. With the brassie and ball ahead of center and the face slightly closed, I hit very high draws or fades that simply flew past the end of the range. The more stable my tripod, the more powerful the strike.
3 Wood? I lost it in the rain near the 220 when it first bounced. The 5 wood was elevating at 190 yards on it way to landing softly with AH. It bounced at 200 with HH.
I would alternate hinges with irons and and woods. A PW with a HH rolled 135 yards. The PW AH stopped almost dead at 130 yards.
The SW flew almost 100 with AH and bounced 110 with HH. 9 iron was 140'sh with HH. And NO STRESS ON MY BACK!
So, I went to the old 9.5 degree ADAMS REDLINE driver and started with the ball back of my heel and an AH. The ball bounced into the woods past the 250. Then, things got interesting. I slid the ball up to my front big toe using an AH. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER HIT THE SWEETSPOT ON THAT DRIVER. THE NOISE WAS DEAFENING! I COULDN'T THINK TO LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO SHOTS. tHE THIRD DRIVE WAS ABOUT 8 STORIES HIGH AT THE 250 MARKER. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. For yucks I hit an HH from the front heel. It faded with a very funny "clunk" at the 250.
I just sent in my fees for GAP (greater area Philadelphia) membership. There are a lot of nice courses I have to abuse in Philadelphia!
More on Daryl's and OB observations next time!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 05-28-2010 at 12:41 PM.
When your Clubshaft (with an Iron) is parallel to the ground and parallel to the plane line during your downswing, is the "Leading Edge" of your Clubface Slightly Closed, Vertical to the Ground, or Open?
(Using "Yo Innercityteacher" is my "Rocky" imitation.
Yo, yo, D, when I want to hit the angle Hinge (my version of it until corrected), my left thumb is long and on top of the shaft in the center of the handle. I feel as I turn or RFT, my right hand drifs up at a 45 degree angle and at parallel, coming down, I feel as if that 45 degree angle is maintained making the leading edge mostly open and a little laid back.
For the Horizontal Hinge, the leading edge is mostly square coming to parallel.
All help is appreciated, D.
Originally Posted by Daryl
Yo, innercityteacher,
When your Clubshaft (with an Iron) is parallel to the ground and parallel to the plane line during your downswing, is the "Leading Edge" of your Clubface Slightly Closed, Vertical to the Ground, or Open?
(Using "Yo Innercityteacher" is my "Rocky" imitation.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 05-12-2010 at 08:06 PM.
Hi Daryl, and everyone else. Somehow,I am a "senior member" of this forum which certainly scares the hell out of me and should remind everyone of that famous Grouch Marx line, "I would never join a club that would have me as a member!"
If I attempt to answer someone who has a question about TGM, I have in mind a sort of checklist to avoid screwing up someone else's happy life.
1) What does the book say?
2) Is there specific video demonstration of the concept in question?
3) Have I an "experimental" knowledge of the subject.
4) With all that in view, can I bring both warmth (good will) and light (some small insight) to someone else's struggle?
I'm curious. If I give a totally stupid answer to a question, is there an experienced guru with a ray gun who will vaporize my silly answer before harming somone's progress?
I'm down with that in any case.
Moi
Originally Posted by Daryl
Yo, innercityteacher,
When your Clubshaft (with an Iron) is parallel to the ground and parallel to the plane line during your downswing, is the "Leading Edge" of your Clubface Slightly Closed, Vertical to the Ground, or Open?
(Using "Yo Innercityteacher" is my "Rocky" imitation.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Are you kidding? I'd pay money to read your bits.
Thumb on top? Have you tried "aft of the shaft" with the left thumb? Not at 3, but somewhere in between noon and 3.
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I need some advice on the veritical hinge. This is when the leading edge is horizontal to the ground at follow thru.
When I try to make chipping motion with v-hinging sometimes I feel the need to flip the left wrist. Any suggestions on avoiding flipping the wrist when v-hinging or should I just play that way?
Visually when I flip, I dont have a FLW at impact. My left wrist is cupped at impact Now I realized that's not acceptable for a full swing but how about a chip shot?
I need some advice on the veritical hinge. This is when the leading edge is horizontal to the ground at follow thru.
When I try to make chipping motion with v-hinging sometimes I feel the need to flip the left wrist. Any suggestions on avoiding flipping the wrist when v-hinging or should I just play that way?
Visually when I flip, I dont have a FLW at impact. My left wrist is cupped at impact Now I realized that's not acceptable for a full swing but how about a chip shot?
Bending and cupping your left wrist to simulate a Vertical Hinge is not a recommend procedure. Timing, Hand eye coordination and compression loss all add to the difficulty of ball control.
Although the Vertical Hinge is a complete act of Hand Manipulation, you can practice and become competent using a Flat Left Wrist. The ball control gained is a shot of higher than normal trajectory without spin. When the Ball lands, it hops a couple of times and stops without rolling. It's well worth the practice.
The TALY is a very helpful tool with these procedures. Until you get one, you might try a business card in your glove against the back of your hand and wrist.
Good practice of sound principles is the ticket. Practicing without purpose is just that.
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