[innercityteacher]

4 club wind dead into the hitting bays. Very comfortable with RFT. Using it exclusively.

"Dragging the mop" for a Hitting motion to both Arms Straight produces a very steep, high flight that just keeps climbing in the breeze and actually turns over. The RFT to a "frozen" position and held to my side as I Pivot on my left heel straight down ala the Ben Hogan video.

http://youtu.be/G4DCZuAj5Mg

That motion produces a slowly rising, low trajectory, penetrating flight that is very straight.

A third motion starts with RFT and reverses with my right knee moving to about 11 on a clock face driving the right hip and shoulder Throwing Out the right arm and spinning the right hand down the plane. That produce a high draw as well.

The ball position in all cases is never forward of my Mid-Body and feels as if I am striking straight down!

ICT

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Drawing The Ball
Originally Posted by JohnThomas1
So maybe i can hit a natural draw with the hitting stroke simply by playing it back a bit?

Yoda's Response

John
Yes, John, you can produce a 'natural Draw' when Hitting (or 'Manipulated Hands' Swinging) simply by playing the Ball back a bit -- provided you (1) align the Clubface Closed to the Flight Line per 2-J-1 and (2) Rotate your Grip per 7-2. You can do the same thing as a True Swinger by Rotating your Plane Line. Opposite procedures are employed to Fade the Ball.

And 12 Piece observed something I might be doing with my square /open stance and my RFT

I've got a copy of an instruction book Lee Buck wrote. It's now out of print. He actually advises closing the clubface at address. I would say based on what he said in his book that he played from a 10-5-B Square-Open stance. He said he intentionally took it back outside the Target Line but then his Downstroke was down the target line. He said by doing this he had the clubface looking at the target longer than anybody in golf.

Also, he played with what looks like to me a 10-2-D grip. Mr. K says with this grip "The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exacly like a paddle-wheel rotating On-Plane - no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact." This is Angled Hinging. Lee described himself as a "blocker" on his Golf Channel thing.

Check out the post that Yoda did on the Impact Bag. Look at the picture of Lee post impact. No rolling there. If you can find any swing sequences on Lee, his Backstroke is definitely to Top and not End. Watch how his Right Forearm Wedge stays solid and how his Right Shoulder is driven down plane. Check out follow through. In 1-L, "The Club starts up-and-in after "Low Point" but the thrust continues Down Plane during Follow-Through." Not many got this better than Lee Buck.

and OB Left said this:

In both Hitting and Swinging the Left Hand lays flat on the Inclined Plane at Top. You can Drive Load from there for sure. Drive LOAD, Load the Right Elbow and the non rotated lag pressure point, the index finger. Load it and then sneak it down to its Delayed Release point and them blammo. Right Arm Throw a side armed throwing motion at the Aiming Point. Like skipping stones it'll feel more cross line than Tracing. The Thrusting on the aft you mention does push the Left Hand off the Inclined Plane #3 firing and #2 as well at the same time.

ICT