[JesseV]

Still pretty relevant, if your other components fit. If your shoulder turn is rotated as opposed to flat, it may not work as well. The right shoulder needs to get on plane in the downswing. It moves down, forward and out. Imagine a clubface on your right shoulder and drive it into the ball. However, that could lead to disaster if your right shoulder is not positioned properly in the backswing. Tomasello in the pivot video teaches a flat shoulder turn. Moving the right shoulder down works well with that turn. The golfing machine works when all components work with one another, there are a myriad of options. I have found by painful personal experience that taking one component, the right shoulder driving down to start the swing for instance, may work one day and not the next because some other component enters into the fray.

The main reason I asked about that move still being relevant is that I have a hard time starting the down stroke.

Tomasello's tip seemed to me to be a great way to insure my right shoulder started down plane and that it could also possibly help with my start move down.

After reading in another thread that my pivot was probably not the best. I now know that not being able to get my right shoulder started down plane correctly, pivot and of course weight shift are of all related.

I'm not sure if I have a flat shoulder turn or not on back stroke? On the down swing I know I do hence my OTT move that I have never been able to cure completely, but I don't think thats what you mean. Standing up in the down stroke, causing OTT and pull hooks, pulls and push fades is not a flat shoulder turn on back stroke!

Will it never end?