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the pivot causes the throw out for a swinger, in cases where you really have to force the roll to square up, odds are that you are compensating for something (bad alignments, off plane motion and/or rhythm)

think of it this way - in a sequenced release of a swinger, the wrist uncocks, the pivot causes the roll

This makes a lot of sense EdZ thanks. The swinger then uses his pivot Zone 1 to get the Left Hand off the Inclined Plane, the Release Swivel, is that right? Where as the Hitter will drive the Right Arm and paddle wheel the Right Hand off the Inclined Plane earlier, an overlapped Release.

I guess you have to define what Brad Faxon meant by "squaring up the face". Release Swivel or Hinge Action. Its an old common golf speak phrase but................. Horizontal Hinging is pure compression, closing with no layback, and has a lot of roll to it. Its "square" at one brief point in time only, Separation.

Thinking about this some more..........typically, the Hitter's Angled Hinging is a product of his Right Arm Thrust, Zone 2. The Swingers Horizontal a product of CF, Zone 1.

I dunno, heck I was hitting all over hells half acre yesterday. Id say you cant square the clubface....... its impossible.