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This is more similar to what I do. But there's more to it than shoulders and hands too.

I don't start with the hands on any stroke. I basically start with a hip motion that partly rocks, partly turns the shoulders and keep the club head on plane with good extension. Then the hands path separate from the pivot path. A major part of the shoulder turn happens really late.

Me too, I feel like my turning right hip actually starts the clubhead moving for the first few inches, then I turn my right shoulder back and fan and pickup the Right Arm. The body is the rotor , the arms are just blades. The McDonald drill with the butt of the club stuck in the belly button.

Without the Fanning, Bending and Tracing the Hands would go with the Shoulders. Its a trained thing. Its the Right Elbow Bending , the Pickup that gets the Hands up to the Turned Shoulder Plane.

Basically its the Hands, the Pressure Points which travel the Inclined Plane for every shot including those that dont have a Shoulder Turn, making the motion of the Right Arm unique for different shots and ..........critical. It sure sounds a heck a lot more difficult than it is. Just keep Tracing and you're good despite how much Shoulder Turn the shot has. A quarterback can be running and throw the ball in any direction. We can divide the motion of the Body of the Arms and Hands, we can concentrate on the direction of the Hand Path. That is what is attached to the handle afterall.