LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - 10-6-D the arms are simply raised and lowered vertically Thread: 10-6-D the arms are simply raised and lowered vertically View Single Post #9 10-31-2009, 06:11 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Hey Whip Here is a drill for ya: 1. Go to a TSP Top, then zero out your pivot by returning the shoulders to their Impact position while leaving your arms at Top. You'll notice your left arm is across your chest and the hands are approximately over your right leg. 2. Do the same but from a Turning Shoulder position at Top or End. You will now notice your Hands are much more centered in your stance. The difference I think being a result of changes in the mixture of Fan and Bend in the RFT. 1. has more Fanning 2. is almost pure Bending or pure Right Arm Pickup. Lynn in a lesson recommended that I begin the pickup immediately in Startup albeit for me with some accompanying Fanning as I prefer the TSP as the Turning Shoulder Plane requiring a Plane Shift back to the TSP prior to Start down. Mr Kelley referred to the Turning Shoulder Plane as having an "off plane loading" procedure and described it as the motion used by those who take the club "straight back from the ball" another off plane procedure. Straight Back, Steering, being an outside the plane move. So although it is named a Turning Shoulder Plane is it really a true Plane? I dunno. If its "Straight Back" you cant Trace, you'd have to Cover the Base Line with the clubhead. Ive been working really hard to get rid of things like this. Bad habits from my junior years in the 70's. Plaid pants, long hair, high hands and a sore back. Is the Turning Shoulder Plane still the most popular plane out there? It was in Homer's day but is it still? Im inclined to say no. Last edited by O.B.Left : 10-31-2009 at 07:21 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left