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Chuck Evans: Years ago, when we first met, I was in Moe’s group playing in a tournament in the Florida “winter tour series”. After playing together in a couple of these events I said to Moe, “teach me how to swing like you”. He replied, “swing like you, not like Moe”.

It took me a few years to fully comprehend what he meant. I first thought he was politely telling me to take a hike and go figure it out for myself, then I realised that what he actually meant, was no one can completely duplicate the motion of another player. We all have certain restrictions in our strokes and what one player can do physically or mentally another player may not.

This is evident today with teachers attempting to teach Moe’s procedure. There have been no players to date that have had the success of Moe Norman! There are no players that have won any tour events using Moe’s procedure because they cannot duplicate precisely what he did. There are players that say they use Moe’s procedure but none of them actually do. They use variations of what they think Moe did.

People have tried to emulate Hogan, Nicklaus, Tiger, Snead, Nelson, and a host of others but they will all fail. The only way a player can exactly duplicate another player is to have:

The same physical structure and flexibility
The same mind set
The same personality style

This surely relates to biomechanics and the notion that there is a 'best way' for all of us to golf our ball.

I think bioengine said somewhere earlier in the thread that when they screen top ball strikers they all have very similar biomechanics, even though their swings are very very different. The training I have received has absolutely nothing like a swing pattern to aim for. You do the exercises and they train the body to move more efficiently. For one person that might look like Jack, another like Hogan, another like Trevino, and another like Moe. But actually everyone will just look like themselves. There is literally nothing like a visual pattern. bioengine has said to me that visually he cannot assess people's biomchanics. There is no "look", no series of positions, no specific planes, no specific set up rules, no nothing. In fact bioengine made me promise that when I swing I am not allowed to think about "doing" anything. His recommendation is simply to have a visual of the result you want. Sometimes I cheat and just focus on a spot on the back of the ball because I am not good at visualisation yet.

I think what I am doing based on biomechanics fits exactly with what Moe said. You do these exercises and then you go out and just let your body hit it the way it wants to.