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I agree with you I think it is simply you overiding the angled hinge with a "full roll" I have found in my experimentation with 10-2-D (for Bucket's sake) that if I wanted an angled hinge I had to almost think in terms of a vertical hinge because I usually use a full roll. When it was clearly a counter roll I backed off it a bit. That is a very much a feel-based suggestion so take it with a pinch of caution! Close the face in order to better open it...open the face to better close it! Funny game, golf.