LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Pivot, hip slide and release types Thread: Pivot, hip slide and release types View Single Post #23 02-16-2008, 12:46 PM gmoney_69 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern Vermont Posts: 33 Originally Posted by lagster This is an interesting study. I have noticed that with many of the Max Trigger Delay players, that the right shoulder stays high longer into the downswing-- Hogan, Garcia, Clampett, O'Grady... and some of the Plummer and Bennett players, like Baddeley, have some of this. One of the questions here, is how do these players get the club down to Release Point? If the right shoulder is not bringing the club down, then some other part of the Pivot is, unless they have an arm drop independent of the Pivot... either with the Straightening Right Arm, or Gravity. What do you think? Well, type of shoulder turn will make a difference. High right shoulder into the downstroke, but not high at impact. The right shoulder still drives downplane and delivers the club to releae and impact. A couple of the players mentioned have very connected pivots, the arms and body work very much together. One has a rotated shoulder turn, and one standard. This gets at what Bucket's been talking about with the pivot's relationship to plane angle. For example a rotated shoulder turn with a elbow plane downstroke is going to provide a right shoulder that stays higher longer. But, it doesn't stay high through impact, the arms and club still work downplane with the body. It just doesn't drop at startdown due to axis tilt. You have also have to consider the shot desired and how the body must work to accomplish the desired trajectory and curvature. gmoney_69 View Public Profile Send a private message to gmoney_69 Find all posts by gmoney_69