[Bigwill]

This is precisely what guys like me find most difficult to feel; let alone achieve the desired result from obtaining that feeling.

The more I swing out and down to right field and the more I then roll and swivel post impact the worse the results I get.

I see Tour players on TV hitting the ball seemingly dead straight from what seems to be almost an outside in path and contact directly on the rear of the ball. You could, almost, accuse them of steering the ball towards the target.

I see take aways for swingers and approaches into impact that are nothing more seemingly than paddle wheel motions. No laying of the club face against the inclined plane on, or immediately after, take away or any overt rolling of the club face from laying on plane to back to impact alignments on the down swing.

Seems to me that the descriptions of what really happens in the golf swing are very much overcooked in order to get an idea across.

Certainly, the more I try to fulfill the seemingly required criteria the worse the result. This can, of course, simply be down to me and inadequate execution - y'all quiet down now, ya hear!

On the other hand, if I just swing the club back, in and up, then down, out, in and up again, with the sole intention of just staying on plane and smacking the ball square in the A$$ in an attempt to propel it forwards, I achieve acceptable results.

Maybe your action already has sufficient down and out, and your efforts to go down and out consciously is causing you to be underplane?