[Delaware Golf]

Burner, perhaps I should have said that the downswing is "predated" by 1) the body (primarily the legs) exerting pressure and weight into the earth under hopefully stable feet, and 2) the resultant reaction force of the earth pushing an equal amount of energy back in the opposite direction. The body/brain can then choose to harness this batch of reactive energy and muscularly redirect it via what is known as a human kinetic chain. This energy is ideally channelled via the body's ability to create speed and power by TRANSFERRING or conserving momentum from large base segments to smaller extrmities. The whole process is due to the law of conservation of energy and MUSCULAR stretch-shorten cycle. In your example you are only agreeing with me. You definitely can't swing the club down until you push into the ground. But you don't have to swing. You can just let the undestroyable groudforce energy flow out of your body. You don't have to TRANSFER that momentum via your muscles. So you can physically exert a force into the ground in order to faciltate a downswing but after you do that you can AVOID that energy. You can even stop or derail your downswing once it has started by pushing into the ground again PRIOR to the derailment. In that case you have OVERPOWERED the original ground reaction force.

Your brain has to decide to do something with RESULTANT groundforce energy and it does so by innervating muscle activity AFTER you have used a PREVIOUS muscle force to give you that opportunity. Its all confusing and most people say semantics makes the argument moot. I am not wrong. You can not start your downswing without muscularly causing a ground force reaction but this RESULTANT force cannot cause the direct muscular force required to harness and redirect that very same resultant force. The RESULTANT REACTIVE ground force does not swing the club down for you. Your muscles can only do that with a DIRECT FORCE. You will NEVER convince me otherwise and I'm not trying to be polite.

Thank you.

Interesting comments about groundforce....after practicing what Tomasello taught me....the two areas that get worked out the most are the right forearm and my feet. Both tend to be sore and the muscles in the right forearm feel slightly tight consistent with a good workout. The interesting thing is I have no back pain or tightness at ALL.

DG