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Old 03-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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Inconsistencies What?
Originally Posted by 6bmike View Post
What is it that you think is funny? How can you see that interview- posted a a hundred times already- as a TGM lesson. An interview is not a lesson. You are unable to discuss TT- just cut and paste and add smilies.

And didn't you try to implied, falsely, that in 10-15-B that the the right arm is in control of the hip action? That this TT quote from you knw where: "Your shoulders, for example, turn only because your hips have turned. There is no "tension" or "seperation" of the hips and shoulders." is NOT 10-15-B at all. That there is a seperation of Hip and Shoulder motion called Hula Hula. It would have been in your and TT best interest to the questions instead of hiding behind a tape and interview.

On the weekend you run away and left this forum (again), I watched the entire series of videos twice and had a list of questions. I only wish someone that really knew TT and knew TGM can answer them someday. There is so much to learn. In the meantime I started to find answers as to what TT was about with a thread by Yoda in the archives:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2670

Everyone should read this. You will learn a lot about TGM and will understand and appreciate TT more than the way he is exploited now.

I re-read Lynn's critique of Tomasello's interview, I found no inconsistencies with what Tomasello taught and the references Lynn made to TGM. The reference to Hula Hula flexibility - Homer used the term "coordinate" Tomasello used "no separation"....Hips and Shoulders to be independent but coordinate. Go down to 7-15. Forgetting to shift the weight or clear the Right Hip is difficult if the Hips are initiating the Downstroke Shoulder Turn---in either direction. Study 2-N and 7-3.

2-N. Proper Clubhead control is dependent on coordination the complete Hip Turn with the selected Right Elbow Position (10-3), Motion (6-B-1), and Path (7-3) to avoid collisions as well as for Balance and Axis Tilt. (See 7-15) To accomplish both the Backstroke and Downstroke must be executed as 7-3, 10-3 and 10-5-0 discuss that procedure.

7-3. ...Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening, or Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix. So, Right Elbow Action either Powers and/or controls all three elements of the Three Dimensions Impact (2-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.


More on the Magic of the Right Forearm and Delayed Hip Action from Tomasello.

Magic of the Right Forearm…

Tomasello: So consequently the pivot is caused by the hip motion, the arms bring the club up and down. See, that is all the arms do. The arms never swing towards the target. Except on a very short golf swing where we do not have a pivot.

DG: Hmmm ok.

Tomasello: Understand that. So, wherever there is no pivot, obviously the arms must swing the club. (laughs)..right… You can feel that you’re doing it with your hands as in putting…right… but then as we get a little further away on a chip shot it’s your right forearm…right…then we get the pitch shot it’s still the right forearm.. then we get a little further back, the right forearm going up pulls the shoulders, the shoulders pulls the hip, right…now when we reverse that…So, the forward golf swing is merely a reversal…in order…in order, see…alright, now what was the first thing that moved going backward…the forearm, the forearm, now the forearm pulls the shoulders that pulls the hip, right.

DG: That’s your delayed hip action.

Tomasello: you’ve got it…. Now what starts down…see you could do this (pointing to the lower body)…what has got to come first depending on where the hands are located. If there above shoulder high you have to connect before you do this (rotate the hips)……understand that. If you hands are here (waist high) we can do this simultaneously. In other words if the right elbow is still connected….these are separate motions….if the elbow is off the side…this must be first (right forearm start down) we have to connect first before the rotary move with the hip…do you appreciate that one.

DG: Yeah, just the way you describe that there, I can see the connection.

Tomasello: Yes, the right elbow connected. Turn that off and I’ll be right back.

DG: Now where in the book does it say that as far as the right forearm coming down to the hip.

Tomasello: It’s call the Magic of the Right Forearm.

DG: 7-3?

Tomasello: Hmm Hmm. The Magic of the Right Forearm.

DG: When I read the downstroke sequence that’s a reaction to the right forearm as it’s moving down it’s shifting the whole machine.

Tomasello: Sure. Yeah. You have to understand that everything….the procedure or the procedure you had going up is just reversed going down….what was the last thing that moved going up…see it’s the right forearm going up and now what is the first thing going down…the right forearm going down. See…people would have you… it’s the hips first…and immediately what that does if you pull your hips first…watch what it does to your shoulders. The shoulder goes out, instead of down. You’ve got to uncock that right forearm first and that motion is what pulls the shoulders down….And not knowing that can be a disaster…just because you have the bible and you know how to read doesn’t mean you’re going to heaven (laughs).

DG: My problem was other books and other information confusing me with this.

Tomasello: Sure. The explanation for that is that all these other books and tapes are merely opinions of that particular individual thinks he’s doing. Do you understand that? It’s based on personal opinion and feel. It’s not that it’s necessary wrong, obviously if he is getting good results he must be doing something right. However, one of our biggest problems, one of the reasons we have wars is merely communication.


DG

Last edited by Delaware Golf : 03-18-2007 at 09:45 AM.
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