[YodasLuke]

Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

I've misunderstood somewhere Joe. If one doesn't "turn" the left wrist on the b/s wouldn't your "unscrewing" motion on the d/s cause you to pull the ball due to a closed clubface? Also, would your motion be considered a compensation per TGM? Thanks for any defogging mate. John

As EdZ says the clubface(actually leading edge) ends up in plane at the top from the orbiting of the arms. I'd have to manipulate to keep the face pendicular to the arc. I'm very flexible and the sweetspot gets into the plane without any intentional LW turn to start the BS. Yes, "unscrewing" is a compensation to replace Angled Hinging with Horizontal. The "unscrewing" happens late enough that the face is still open at Impact.

Please understand that I don't post here just to be confrontational or to delight in preying on others ideas. My only goals here are to provide any help that I can to get the "word" out and keep it as clean as Homer would want it. But, I'm very concerned about Mizunojoe or anyone else that's attempting to use horizontal hinging with hitting. The results can be a DISASTER. I would like to see this manipulated action in person, even better, under the gun. My hypothesis about the motion (without seeing it) is that there is some centripetal (inward turning) force that would require a horizontal hinge action to get the ball to go straight. The rythms are VERY different. The other hypothesis would be that the overtaking found in angled hinging is being mistaken for horizontal.

First, about the uncocking, read the last paragraph in 7-3 (The magic of the right forearm). I'm going to try to give you a demonstration in text; so, be patient.

I want you to go to 4-B-1 in the book and mimic the picture, with one exception. I want you to point your thumbs straight out and away from you when doing this. Now, bend ONLY your right elbow. This should make the right thumb point skyward. Finally, without bending the left elbow, make the left wrist cock so that the thumbs match the direction they're pointing. This is a demonstration of the text found at the bottom of the page in 7-3 (the bending and straightening of the right elbow cocking and uncocking the left wrist). Therefore, the #1 accumulator uncocks the left wrist. I, personally, have no awareness of the #2 pressure point being active other than its orginal pressure established in the grip.

Second, the pushing force of hitting creates angled hinging. Anything else would be a manipulation.

I would put a hitting motion with horizontal hinging in the "don't try this at home" category, as it may cause personal injury to you or someone around you.