Finish swivel
 

Anybody got an idea how to develop an effective finish swivel.
This seems especially difficult if using vertical hinging as in the sand.

Scottgas2,

Try hitting some short wedge shots (25-50 yards) with just your left hand and arm. Don't use your pivot just rotate your left arm back and through.....rotate it hard to the finish and maintain a flat left wrist.

This drill has helped me greatly with adding a finish swivel to my own stroke pattern these past few months.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-rAy

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What a great story, Yoda.

Was it the finish swivel that was missing, the bridge between both arms straight and finish?

I have witnessed up close and in person your "total motion with super light lag pressure" litmus test. A 5 yard wedge with total motion, release swivel etc. Does this relate to this students problems?

Regards
ob

PS I now love playing around with my lag pressure for each distance. The finish positions going from Follow Through, to higher arms with no Finish Swivel , to Total Motion with Swivel, all with various lag pressures. Sorry if I have the terminology wrong , dont have my book with me right now.

Found Treasure
 

Yes, the Finish Swivel was the missing piece. This young man had absolutely no idea of its existence, much less how to do it. But, once informed and trained, his execution was flawless, and the ball instantly behaved.

:)

So strange.

I was a very good high school golfer. I got into a car accident when I was 17 and spent about 2 weeks in the hospital. Got out and really lost my swing. This was especially problematic since I had just received a college golf scholarship. Up to this point, my swing was pretty much self taught and was pretty good.

I then got some lessons, didn't work. I then decided to read as much as I could from just about anybody on the golf swing. You know the story of how that usually goes.

I finally started taking some lessons from an AI and I improved my ballstriking, but still got by through my really good short game. Eventually I pretty much quit the game due to being a bit burned out on it and pursuing other ventures of my life. Still, I kept on reading and reading more about the golf swing (I tried my hand at TGM during college, but understood about 4 pages of the yellow book.)

So I came back into the game after recovering from some health problems. I figured life is too short to not do the things you love and are passionate about. Before I was ok'd by the doctors to play, I started reading more and more about the swing. And a lot of the stuff really helped.

However, I still couldn't get my ballstriking down. I'd go out one day and play very well, then the next day it was pull hooks or push fades. Just really frustrating stuff.

So I went to see Ted and he taught me the finish swivel. My clubface was extremely closed on the backswing so I was forcing myself to vertical hinge on the way thru. Now I had to get the clubface more square on the backswing...almost feeling for me like I'm opening the clubface as far as I can, then the finish swivel through.

Like your student, I had no idea of the existence of the finish swivel and I had spent almost countless hours reading and studying the golf swing. It took me a few days to get used to it, but now I'm hitting about 75% of the fairways instead of 50%. Shot 72 at Olde Atlanta hitting 14 greens and not making a putt outside of 6 feet the entire day.

But more importantly, I have much much less FEAR when I'm hitting the ball. My bad shots may be a big fade (due to years of ingraining steering in my swing), but those shots are happening less and less often (only hit 1 of them yesterday). I'm also hitting my wedges much much better. The last 3 times I've played (all at different courses) I've hit at least one wedge in the round where the ball spun back and was inside 6" from going in the cup for an eagle.

I really cannot believe how much of a difference that release makes and I am very eager for my next lesson.




3JACK

Support Group
 

Good stuff, 3Jack. Thanks for the post.

Next time you visit Ted, ask him if I'm on the grounds. If so, I'd like to meet you personally!

:salut:

It would be my pleasure. I'll probably look to get another lesson in 2 weeks.

I wanted to get one this week, but I didn't feel like I was where I needed to be to be ready for another lesson. Years and years of closing the clubface in the backswing and steering thru would still cause me some trouble on crucial, tough shots. But the last two times I've played, that hasn't been a problem and after yesterday's round I felt confident that I'm ready to learn more. Unfortunately, I'm looking to be pretty busy next week.

Really wish all of those instruction books and teachers would've worked on clubface control and the swivel a long time ago. Would've saved me *literally* a lot of blood, sweat and tears on the range.

As I was telling a friend about Ted's instruction 'it's so simple, it's stupid.'




3JACK

All that from one (1) lesson? You must be itching to back to the Swamp for another one.

I Love your handle, 3Jack. Especially given your good short game. There is a nut job on this site that named himself after "out of bounds" or something. He tries to tell everyone its really his middle initials and all, but you gotta wonder sometimes.

Regards
o.b.Left

Unfortunately, I think I was given quite a bit of bad information before. I had instructor after instructor say 'well, your grip is a little strong, but that's okay and your clubface is a little closed at the top, but that's not bad' and then work on something else...usually to make my swing 'look' prettier.

Ted compared my swing to Ernie Els because we are of similar size and build (I'm 6'4" tall, 190 pounds) and he actually liked my backswing better than Ernie's, he just hated my closed clubface. So we changed my grip (which wasn't really difficult to change) and got me opening the clubface more on the backswing so it wasn't so shut at the top (then I could use the swivel release). When I got the tempo and sequence down in the lesson, I was hitting some powerful shots despite barely even swinging the club.

I do not like braggers and don't like bragging myself...but I always thought I had a lot of untapped potential. When I was playing college golf, I was very good at doing what the instructor would teach me and picking it up quickly. I was also wildly inconsistent. Last I checked, I hold the course record at Caledonia Golf & Fish Club in Myrtle Beach (actually Pawleys Island, SC) with a 64. The day before that I shot an 88.

So again, not trying to boast of my ability, but it has always been incredibly frustrating for me that I could be the most inconsistent golfer I've ever come across. I feel that now I'm on the right path towards reaching that potential and all I want to be is the best student I can possibly be and everything should work out okay.

My putting isn't what it once was since I came back to the game. But strangely now I rarely 3 jack it.

'Kind of like calling a bald man 'curly'.


3JACK

Ted and Lynn
 

This seems like a good thing to focus on using a video clip.
That is, unless it is a trade secret.