300 Yard Drives....Hmmmm
 

Checkout this swing.....looks like the golfer is putting his hands in the impact alignment....then just swings with his body. Truth or Fiction....it appears the golfer is using 10-20-C per Tomasello.

http://www.taly.com/golfchanneldb.ht...FQObFQodZgSvjA

http://taly.com/hitit300yards.html

DG

no cock no roll no arms no hands I see them all !
 

Not sure if hes using the 10-20-c trigger but he definitely cocks his wrists and rolls through impact and he has a late release. He might not feel he does as all hes feeling is a pivot controlled swing but he does.

Reminds me of Moe starting from that preset address position. He has to cock and turn his wrist to get into that address posititon.

Surely this aid is teaching him to maintain the lag and to have a FLW as he has no need to flip to get the red ball aligned with the real ball. Takes the focus away from the clubhead. ?

There is more going on there than you can see with the naked eye from a video of 30 frames a second. I would like to see that swing with the new Casio camera at 320 frames a second. It would tell a different story.

Taly Sequence
 

Does this shed some light on what's going on....there's lots of frames here to examine:)

Not even close. You don't even have 30 frames. Until you see a golf swing at 320 frames a second you will not have a clue what is really going on. This is one of the biggest reasons golf swings are analyzed incorrect. There was never enough frames to see what is really going on. Now with the new Casio camera or cameras like it, is and it is going to change the way we analyze the swing and make corrections in the golf swing.

New cameras
 

So do you think Tally is doing anything revolutionary John? Even at 30fps I see wrists and arms being used.

I agree with you re the cameras have you got the new casio? I recently bought the Sony TG3 (TG1 in the states I think) which is a very portable HD camcorder. A nice little feature it has is super slow mo recording where it records at 240fps. Downside is it can only do this for a 3 second clip but thats enough for a golf swing as long as you know when the waggles have stopped. Also means you need a friend with you to record your own swings. I havent found any analysis software that can deal with the files (.MTS) yet so have to convert them first which loses quality.

Its amazing the things you spot at this speed that you wouldnt see with normal recording (24fps in the UK so even worse for us!).

Funny how the commentators dont seem to see anything new even with minolta swing vision.

I have a Casio and it is fantastic as well as easy to use. The output is in MOV (Quicktime) format. I sent Yoda a couple of swing clips of my son but unfortuantely his PC would not play them. I have no problem playing them in Quicktime 7.0 or V1 software.

You can find samples on Youtube such as this golf swing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQv3Dp8SFEo

Ooch
 

Sorry to disappoint you purehitter....I probably could break it down more to about 50 frames but I am almost at my limit on space....if 300 frames are needed to know what's going on....I'm out of business posting on this site:)

yeah why bother waste time with that swing anyway ...its no oil painting

That is great! Were did you buy the casio camera and do they have a good price?

Thanks