YodasLuke, could you show that to me? how to have a tour caliber pivot? any drills tips visual?

Hull's pivot
 

The above quote was in reference to Jeff Hull's Pivot. Whether Hitting or Swinging, the Pivot is extremely important. Higher handicaps seldom move the Right Shoulder down plane far enough. As a result, Release happens immediately in Start Down and there's no Delivery of a loaded Power Package. The Right Arm straightens before Impact.

As a drill, I'll have the student hold a dowel or club across the shoulders. I'll hold my right hand up at shoulder level when they're standing upright and ask them to touch my hand with the dowel that extends from their Right Shoulder. Turning the Shoulders on a horizontal plane is easy. Then I'll drop my right hand on a lower plane, again asking them again to touch my hand with the dowel. Most of the time they ask, "I should look like THIS at Impact?" :shock: Most have never felt the location of the Hips or Right Shoulder in position for Release.

:clap: How good is that? Outstanding ! :clap: Train the Pivot- now you have something to work on.

thanks for that!

Do you ask them to 'aim' that right shoulder at the ball or more straight down from the top?

And, you include the location of the hips in your response, is this just a result of the right shoulder move down plane or is there a conscious thought put into it?

at the ball
 

Since the Turned Shoulder and the location of the ball define the Plane, it's definitely at the ball.

As Homer suggested, Impact Fix is helpful in determining Impact Alignments. The location of the Hips, Right Shoulder, Right Forearm, Hands to Clubface, Wrist Conditions, Sweetspot to Ball, and length of the Radius can all be determined in a condition to which you hope to return. This is much more precise than trying to find the Impact Alignments without a rehearsal. It can be a real eye opener for the student.

This is a GREAT thread! In addition, for me, one of the problems I had was not keeping my eyes on the ball/aiming point. By keeping my head centered and still (ahem), I keep my eyes on the ball/aiming point past impact, and I don't come out of my swing. Thus my right should continues down the plane and I swing through the ball, not at it. It's added 20 yards to my drives and one club to my irons this past year, and my swing feels effortless. I also now can add a little right forearm thrust to the mix since that arm is no longer already straightened out. I feel balanced, relaxed and smooth through the whole swing, and it is really fun and satisfying to make a golf swing. :golf:

Yodasluke, does a more middle sternum ball position mean a steeper plane thus higher ball flight? or it has little to do with that? can i change trajectory and angle of attack through ball position?

yodasluke? any thoughts on my question?

Practice setting up the machine....

Practice footwork, knee motion, hip motion....

Practice stationary head....

Practice the pivot train....

Practice Balance....

Understand the differences in variations effect on the movement of the power package and how it affects the pivot.

Visualise points and the 'lines' that these motions make....

ps - enjoying the philippines very much :)