Left Wrist Positions
 

My interpretation of the left wrist during the "Swing Stations":

(1) At Address FLV (2) At Top FCT (3) At Impact (eventhough not a Station) FUV (4) At Finish FCR.

Please, give me confirmation or corrections. TIA. daluqfam

Left wrist should be FLV at impact so there will be uncocking through the impact interval. Were it FUL at impact, you wouldn't compress the ball very well. :crybaby:

MJ, eventually the PA2 moves from cocked to undocked, if I'm understanding TGM properly. At what point in the swing does it hit FUL?

TIA

(1) FLV at Impact Fix (might be Address if you choose so) Standard Address is BLV

(3) as MizunoJoe said Impact is FLV and I think FUL at Follow Through

Thanks, guys.

Lynn doesnt teach a flat left wrist post Finish Swivel
 

I dont think Finish should read FCR. Well not in a literal or visually flat way of speaking anyways.


" Wrist Conditions" are often overlooked but all important IMO.

Lots more to consider if you want to get into it and I believe we should. The difference between literally , visually "flat" and Homers geometrically Flat .. they are not the same etc etc. This is a common sticking point , a thing guys often get wrong , an exaggerated visually flat left wrist. Another one being a Flat left wrist where it isnt supposed to be Flat. Its as if the book itself has "snares". Even some TGM type teachers get it wrong . Some big names too. A misinterpretation of Homer. Not Lynn Blake though , not Ted Fort. I had it all wrong myself. This was the stuff of my most recent lesson with Lynn. Ive lost track but Im into double digits with him and this stuff , wrist conditions , is awesome. It completed the education of my hands if you will. Took a while to sink in, a long while. Im freewheeling now.

If you want to get it all straight the info is here on this site but you need to know where to look. Its easily overlooked.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread6100.html


Not very many flat left wrists post Finish Swivel on tour. While the Right Hand bend is not a source of power it must be released all the same for a free wheeling flail like action and that is powerful . See Hogan , Rory , Snead , old Tiger heck most everybody and notice their bend left wrist near Finish Swivel. Its like a return to adjusted hands bent left / flat right. You cant hold the left wrist flat the whole way and free wheel. Jones didnt do that. Through Impact.... yes Rolling the Flat Left Wrist is critical. Its accomplished by Lag and Drag though not a holding onto it deal . Rolling it is key ! Trying to hold it square (steering) will see the forces break the flat left wrist ....unless youve got a strangle hold on the handle.

You are not going to have much wrist cock if the back of the hand is inline with the wrist joint unless you alter the grip. A correct grip and motion will allow a maximum wrist cock well past 90 degrees without requiring any physical change in the grip whatsoever.

A lot of players believe that. But, the Uncocking Left Wrist reaches its Maximum Speed Almost Instantly. So, what is the purpose of exaggerated Wrist Cock with a Bent Left Wrist?

Also , an attempt to form a visually flat left wrist at Top or Finish when you're starting with a slightly turned left hand grip type (as you should IMO) can only be accomplished via the introduction of some Horizontal Wrist Motion ..... An arching motion. Though small , this Horizontal wrist motion is still a "no no" as it breaks the Vertical only , Plane of the Left Wrist Cock and the Left Arm Flying Wedge and therefor Homers concept of Rhythm is lost.

Only the weakest , thumb on top truly vertical to the plane left hand grip types would show a truly flat left wrist at Top.

With a slightly Turned Left Hand grip type , a purely Vertical Left Hand Wrist Cock motion will see the Flat Left Wrist at Top have a slight bend or cup to it visually . Its Flat (capital F) , aka geometrically Flat but not visually or literally flat (lower case f).

To be blunt and with all due respect to several great GSED's who have come before us......there is some confusion around this issue as there were guys teaching a visually flat left wrist at Top and at Finish and through the Finish Swivel. Some even taught a flat left wrist in Finish Swivel with the palm facing the sky . Lynn does not teach any of this!!!!! That palm facing upwards towards the sky thing is an over swivel by the way.

My personal opinion is that being the gentleman Lynn is and never wishing to offend , he has never directly outlined this difference in the teaching of the Wrist Conditions. No doubt out of respect for those other teaching greats . But if you read his posts carefully his ideas on the Wrist Conditions are all here. I have in my records, emails where he kindly took me through the whole thing , with photo's of pro's displaying the conditions he likes.


Lynn teaches a Finish with the club running like an arrow through the ears , the left palm facing the target (not the Plane Line of the left ear or or ) and per Bob McDonald , Golf 1927 an "inward bend " of the left wrist. In an email to me he said "The LW is palm up to the plane at the end of FS (Finish Swivel) then rotates palm to target with the shoulder turn while retaining its "inward bend".

Dont get me wrong. The Flat Left Wrist is critical , Rolling the Flat Left Wrist through impact is all important . But like all things Flat can be over done to the point where it becomes a fault. A flail killer , a block to free wheeling motion , the ruination of the left arm flying wedge and Rhythm , capital R.

Lynn sent me these photos with a rhetorical "Any questions?" A picture is said to be worth a thousand words. Perhaps it can answer a thousand questions.

With the left hand opened flat the back of the hand and the forearm appear to be inline, flat so to speak. But make a fist and see the introduction of a little bend . This is neutral, this is the strongest formation of the hand. This is what you'd punch with or lift weights with . It is Flat in Homer talk but its not flat , IMO.

Then add to this the notion of Impact Hands vs Adjusted Hands . FLAT LEFT / BENT RIGHT VS BENT LEFT /FLAT RIGHT. If the through swing is to match the back swing, mirror image like , you will need to re introduce the bent left / flat right relationship on the through swing. Ideally sometime around Finish Swivel..... not before . Not at Both Arms Straight , Follow Through, not at Impact. Maintaining clubhead lag will maintain the Impact Hands condition through these stages .... its not a holding on , muscling thing.

To me it feels like the flail needs somewhere to go . To manipulate a visually flat left hand at Finish Swivel and Finish is a block to the free wheeling flail action. This was the meat of my last lesson with Lynn. It set me free!!!! Sure it comes and goes like everything else in this game but I found my final pattern and this was its essence . Wrist Conditions , Flail Action , Lag and Drag in both directions . Look mom Im freewheeling . The hands ARE just clamps , the grip is firm the wrists are flexible , free .

its important to remember too, to not compare whats taught in the book and dianes pictures to the tour guys, they are doing a lot of stuff, the yellow book is always, ultimately, more 'correct'. the wrist like the right arm should not be fully released at impact otherwise you lose the full hammering power of the accumulator releasing its stored energy. If you search david toms however i have sort of explained his interesting technique which actually involves a fully uncocked left wrist at impact, a true left arm plane and the right forearm is actually not inline with the shaft (which by the way makes him a swinger def not a hitter...)but he is the exception...

I know some guys are going to disagree with what I said above . Thats ok

So , Question :

Is it desirable to hold the Impact Hands condition (flat left /bent right) through to Finish? If yes , why? If the flat left is a product of Club Head Lag and this Lag has leaked away with the overtaking of the Hands by Clubhead , how do you maintain the Impact Hands condition? Im talking full swings here not sawed off swings where Finish is at Follow Through (which should have the IMpact hands still assembled).

The Flat Left Wrist is not a by-product of Clubhead Lag or Clubhead Trailing. Clubhead Trailing and Overtaking is in relation to Low-point and not the Fixed Right Forearm Flying Wedge around the Circle.

O.B,

No Force or Alignment exists to Bend the Left Wrist after Impact unless it's introduced before Impact. The WristCock (and Uncock) is a Vertical Motion. Bending the Left Wrist is a Horizontal Motion.

No Such thingy as an Over-swiveled Finish Swivel. IF the "Overtaking Motion" of the #3 Accumulator is abruptly stopped or weak or wasn't reached, then the Bent Left Wrist at Follow-through will occur. Most of the Time it's never reached. Players don't know of its existence or, just like the back-stroke, are unable to reach Impact with this procedure alone.

The "Law of the Flail" is law. This also means that an Arched Left Wrist should occur post Impact. The Left Wrist is Level and Vertical at Impact. The Clubhead dramatically slows while Un-Cocking from Level to UN-COCKED as/because the Left Wrist Rolls past the Vertical after Impact.

One Issue, "To Bend or Not to Bend", is that almost all Good Players use the Right Forearm Angle of Approach but/AND Add a little Swivel at Impact. They will Flatten their Right Wrist. Those who don't add Swivel to the Right Forearm Angle of Approach, will maintain a Bent Right Wrist at the Finish Swivel.

The point of bringing things out of line is to create motion. Everyone can putt the ball quite straight, yet it wouldn't produce the power needed to play good golf.

With the back of the wrist inline with the wrist joint, one is only capable of producing about 45 degrees of motion without changing the configuration of the fingers. So whichever way you look at this, either you have an ineffective amount of motion or you have introduced a compensation.

A much better idea is to grip it in a way that allows one to wrap the fingers around the club and stay wrapped during motion; while also enabling the amount of motion needed.

Interesting but:

The Wrist Cock occurs in a Vertical Plane of Motion when using a Flat or Bent Left Wrist. As always, we arrive at a Flat and Vertical-ish Left Wrist at Impact. I also occasionally enjoy an ample use of Bent Left Wrist at the End of the Backstroke.

However. The #2 Accumulator is named the "Velocity" Accumulator because the Clubhead moves from point A to point B faster from the #2 Accumulator than with any other Accumulator. It has very little to do with "Around the Circle" Clubhead Speed (10-2-B Grip).

CF Uncocks the Left Wrist and by "Extension" the Clubhead gains Ground Speed. Extension would be the same for both the Flat Uncocking Wrist and the Bent Uncocking Wrist considering both to be Level at Impact. I would assume that the Residual Velocity used by the #3 Accumulator (Throw-out) would be the same given that the Clubhead reaches its Max Speed from Uncocking almost as soon as its released. The #3 PP and Right Forearm guide the Secondary Lever around the Pulley.

Law of the Flail. The Left Wrist is "Flail-Like". It's held to gather with a bolt.

In fact, at Impact, the Left Wrist is Vertical and the Clubhead is traveling/Uncocking "Down-ward" and when the Left Wrist Rolls past Vertical, it's traveling to the Right as it moves from Level to Uncocked. Severe deceleration.

However, Jamie Sadlowski uses the 10-2-D Grip and his Left Wrist is "Totally Bent" at the Top of his Back-stroke. He Uncocks into the Ball. His Wedges are Aligned at 0 degrees and he swings (Clubshaft) on only the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend, The Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Amazing stuff. Look how he bends his Left Elbow to keep the #2 Accumulator on the Plane of the Right Forearm Wedge and thereby keeps the "Pulley" in addition to Uncocking. Homer said that he thinks that Acceleration is another velocity factor. If that's true, then this guy proves it. Jamie isn't only applying the residual Velocity of the #2 Accumulator, he's using all of the Velocity.

But, "Drive for show, putt for dough".

Thanks for sharing your/Homer Kelley's thoughts but none of this is relevant to our discussion.

Let me explain. The initial assertion was that the wrist motion should not be made with the back of the left hand with an inline relationship to the left wrist joint. I'm arguing that it shouldn't. You're arguing that it should. Keep with the conversation.

If you go line by line through your post, you will find nothing directly related to what we're talking about.

Try to respond to the post again or concede the assertion.

Concede the assertion? Are you Serious? :laughing9

My example is precisely the point. The #3 Accumulator, 4 and 1, and "Residual #2 momentum" converts the Arm and Pivot rotation into Clubhead Speed. Cocking the Left Wrist has a Primary Purpose. It allows the Pivot to gain significant Rotational Speed very quickly. Uncocking the Left Wrist "Slows" the Pivot.

My argument, is that your assertion is irrelevant. CF Uncocks the Left Wrist whether its Bent, Arched or Flat. It's Important that the Wrist be Somewhat Vertical at Impact and the Left Wrist is Level.

Why would it matter how much the Left Wrist is Cocked or how Flat or Bent the Left Wrist Alignment during the Back-stroke considering any of the following 3 points:

1. Cocking the Wrist 18 inches or 36 inches is irrelevant because the Clubhead reaches its maximum speed within 12 inches during the Uncocking process.
   
2. Having a Bent Left Wrist during any part of the stroke is irrelevant because it's Aligned Somewhat Flat and Somewhat Vertical at Impact unless you use a 10-2-D grip. Therefore, the direction of Uncocking is into the Ground and when the Left Wrist passes Vertical, significant deceleration occurs. "Law of the Flail"
   
3. All Uncocking motion is downward, not "Forward" (unless you use a 10-2-D grip) at impact if one uses a flat and Vertical or Somewhat Flat and Vertical left wrist, regardless of preceding wrist conditions. Because of this, only residual clubhead speed from the #2 accumulator contributes to Forward motion around the Circle. Flat or somewhat Flat or Bent or somewhat Bent During the Backstroke or Downstroke is irrelevant.

You can choose to ignore each of the above 3 points. You can pretend they aren't true and you can keep believing that Uncocking the Left Wrist is the same mechanism that struck the golf ball. So, you may as well believe that CF is used to strike the ball.

Homer Kelley states that it's important to have the same Wrist Alignments through Impact that were established at Impact Fix. What happens to Wrist Conditions prior to Impact are irrelevant.

D, Re 4-D-1

Flat is not "flat" necessarily . And not everywhere in the swing. Around impact or fix yes given a 10-2-B or weaker it will appear flatish. Take special note of how Homer says "Flat Left During impact" . Impact . Not Finish or Finish Swivel or Top . Further more notice how Homer "Any loss of Impact Fix Right Wrist Bend during Release immediately becomes Left Wris tBend -Clubhead Throwaway . " Release ! No not Finish Swivel or Finish.


My assertion is that a 10-2-B grip is not literally , visually flat at Fix. Its close, but not quite. Any degree of left wrist bend present at Fix should be present at Top . Easiest way to do this .... freeze the right hand bend once Impact Hands are formed .... at address or in startup for those that start from adjusted. Then post Finish Swivel its a return to Adjusted Hands .. Bent left / Flat Right . I have had the lesson , done the research and this is what our host teaches IMO. I like it . It works.

Furthermore an arched left wrist post impact Hogan style is a product of Horizontal wrist motion unless...... you have a super week left hand grip type to begin with , as Hogan did. Try it out , grip it weak in the left hand and whilst keeping the face square add some shaft lean , lots of it. Now try a 10-2-D grip , you can add a ton of shaft lean without any arching required!!!!!!

D your "arched left post impact" smacks of position golf to me ! How dare thee! Its grip type dependant !

PS How in the absence of club head Lag can one maintain a flat left ? I submit that the flat left is a by product , not a thing one should attempt to manipulate .

Basically , simply put what Im saying is :

What ever left hand grip you have cooked up at Fix , however bent it looks, it is Flat ! Capital F. Flat though it might not be "flat" , visually flat to ones eye.

And ..... Impact Swivel and Finish see a return to Adjusted Bent Left / Flat Right .

Come and get me if you want but that is what I believe. I know some dont ... thats ok . Different strokes for different folks. Im talking free flowing , free wheeling here not a hold off, or hold on to right wrist bend forever method , or or or ... Not saying you cant play well like that you can . Tiger might be trying it out right now. Just talking free wheeling , flail action , swinging .

First, I agree. The Primary Lever can include a somewhat Bent Left Wrist as long as it isn't Bending.

Arched Left Wrist: I haven't done this millions of times but I have done it thousands and thousands by experimentation and playing. With the Flying Wedges Aligned at 90 degrees, the 10-2-B Grip results. They're synonymous.

When the Right Forearm Drives toward its Angle of Approach to Low-Point, the Uncocking Left Wrist truly performs like a Flail that's "Bolted" together. At Impact, it's traveling Down into the Ground and as soon as the Wrist "Rolls" past Vertical, the Left Wrist (given a Level Wrist at Impact) continues to Uncock until fully Uncocked. Just for fun, Roll your stationary Left Wrist and move from Level to Uncocked. It's "Practically" moving in reverse (at 100 MPH). However, the Right Forearm remains Driving Forward to Both Arms Straight. This Arches the Left Wrist. I can't prevent it. I have found that If the back of the Left Wrist, at Impact Fix, Faces the Angle of Approach rather than Aligning it Vertical, that the Arching is lessened.

Flat Left Wrist: I agree. It's a by-product. A great By-Product. No need to try to keep it Flat, it wouldn't happen no matter how much effort you use. You simply must stop treating the Uncocking process as forward momentum and start using the #3 PP to sense Lag and Drag it through Impact. One can keep it Flat without the #3 PP, and that would be a very good swing.

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"Vinny Gorgeous": If I could break free from my current housing situation, I would do you this favor. Christmas is a nice time of year in Toronto. I like all the lights at night. My eyesight isn't so good anymore, so it's nice.

Daryl: Thanks Vinnie, aye, it would be a nice Christmas present, it would make me happy.

You saying Id look good in cement shoes or something? Tell Vinny im size 11 D. :) This would make my wife very happy too probably.

Guys, I am enjoying this discussion of wrist positions and more to the point, I actually understand it! I am walking around school and my house with my bent right wrist taped bent. It is hard to brush my teeth on the left side of my mouth but I am enjoying, as always, the challenge! LOL

I am trying to apply your discussion to this video.

http://youtu.be/Qanj07ptUcw

I will keep trying.

ICT

I passed that along to Vinnie.

Daryl: Aye Vinnie, O.B. Left says heez 11D if you need to know.

Vinnie: yo. We're only going to make the mold and let him swim. If he brings em back, we'll make him flippers or somethin........:)

IMO that exaggerated arched left is a manipulation , a horizontal wrist motion. Homer tolerated a bit of arch "insurance " as he called it against a bending Left , flattening right , Throwaway. But you dont NEED to do that exactly , as video'd...it breaks the left arm flying wedge!

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We know how that's done. I know that the above quote talks about realigning the Hinge with Elbow Locations, and that has almost nothing to do with the issue you raised. But it is related somewhat and I wanted to use it because I've been saving it for a long time. :)

GM is using a Horizontal Hinge and tracing the Angle of Approach at Impact which adds ADD LAYBACK to the Horizontal Hinge. He's a big time Angled Hinge Machine until he uses a Full Swing, which he then traces the Arc of Approach.

His Hand Alignments on short swings are partly the result of tracing the Angle of Approach. But ONLY partly. Mostly, it results from GM relocating Low-Point Forward of his Left Shoulder.

Essentially, he's playing the Ball back in his stance but shifting the Clubhead Orbit Forward. Watch him narrow his stance, so that his Hands won't arrive at the Right Forearm Angle of Approach Alignment until forward of his Left Shoulder. Arched Left Wrist with Dead Hands is a "Dead Giveaway" to using this procedure.

With his "Dead Hands" outlook, he finishes with the shaft at Low-Point geometry. Watch for the exact moment his Clubshaft becomes Vertical to the ground. Shows just How Forward he re-located Low Point.

I'm sure he does this intentionally to demonstrate that the Hands should only work as "simple clamps". Yet he's using a geometry that he doesn't set up for his students. Hmm?

I dont want to get into any mud slinging so Ill tread carefully . Frankly It's not necessary. Alex , Gregg M , Ben D are all great proponents of Homers work, instructors and gentlemen but there are differences in their personal patterns, and what/how they teach. But its frustrating for a newby to see or read one thing and discover another guy is saying just the opposite! This used to frustrate me a lot. Not so much anymore.

Lynn teaches Homers Alignments combined with "motion" as per McDonald , Melhourne and a side order of Runyans short game methodology. Gregg McHatton has a fine fine game and swing . Its free, flowing , swinging and to my eye anyways he manipulates an Angled Hinge ... great pattern . He may hang onto Right Wrist bend forever! Or try to , I dont know . My point is that whilst Lynn considers free wheeling with Angled a fine pattern (I have a post of his on file where he says just this) , he taught me to free wheel with Horizontal , with a bent left/ flat right post Finish Swivel. I know this doesnt jibe with what a lot of other GSED's have said before ...... but I like it personally, having gone the arched , hold off route previously. Its what I see on TV for the most part. You've got options though. Heck you should be able to Angle and Horizontal at will for full shots ... Hogan did . If you watch closely , when Lynn is working with Jeff Hull in their premium video , Lynn can be heard to remark on how Jeff can hold on to his right wrist bend as long as anybody he's ever seen . Its meant as a compliment and it is one . That aside with me he changed that to bent left /flat right at Finish Swivel.

And it feels right .

Wow!
 

Narrow stance= shifting Low Point Forward (I knew that, thanks D!)
Tracing Angle of Approach=Layback added to Horizontal Horizontal (I knew that, thanks D!)
Dead Hands-I know this is what GM strives for-Lynn showed me this too, I need another visit after Chicago/Wisconsin/MN-when done the right way, the ball is "hammered" and feels to have maximum Bent Right Wrist, just like the Bucket Drill, D! Very nice :) OB, good to see you/read you!

ICT

I know where you're coming from and I agree that teachers fall into patterns.

Lynn told me, and I agree, and Homer said this in the book, that the Left Wrist can either Face the Angle of Approach or become perfectly Vertical at Impact (Sorry, I don't have time to look it up). Could that be the difference?? Could a Left Wrist Facing the Angle of Approach lead to a naturally occurring Bent Left/Flat Right Wrist at Follow through? And, one that's perfectly Vertical lead to keeping the Right Wrist Bent? I'll experiment over the weekend.

When I use: (all 3 Patterns include a Flat, Level and Vertical Left Wrist at Impact)

1. Bent Left at End with #2 PP Sensing Lag: Flat Left Wrist Finish Swivel. When I just want to enjoy the Play.
   
2. Flat Left at End with #2 PP Sensing Lag: Flat Left Wrist Finish Swivel. I don't use this very much. Very difficult.
   
3. Flat Left at End with 3# PP Sensing Lag: Flat Left Wrist Finish Swivel. My Favorite.

You know that. You can demonstrate and teach it. Doesn't it seem logical now that you can manipulate Low-Point. Now there are two of us who know. It's up to us to teach the World. How could they ever learn this on their own??????

Ive highlighted a sentence above. Maybe its a typo , not sure but Lynn teaches Impact Hands at Follow Through. Flat Left / Bent Right . Not overly arched or anything else. Then bent left / flat right at Finish Swivel. Like a mirror image of the backswing . Two halves making a whole. An unbridled flail action , a release of the right hand bend if you will.

But again IMO "Flat" is not necessarily visually "flat" . And so there is often a little bend to the left wrist at Top even though its said to be Flat. This is also what he teaches IMO. Well I know for a fact . We discussed this point both in person and via email .

I'd like to teach the world to swing with perfect efficacy...
 

The bucket Daryl, is such a good image for the Right Forearm Angle of Approach that I know I will do it every range visit and before every round. :salut:

Having understood Low Point adjustment with the width of the stance, not a new idea but now clear to me, and the importance of Impact Fix, still mid-body, I can see why my bad days on the course should be in the high 70's not the high 80's,

You were nice enough to explain to me some time ago in another post the why of what Lynn showed me in person to wit:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=74431&highlight=shoulder+lag#post 74431


If you rotate your hips around to turn them, then your right shoulder will go very deep and too flat and throw everything off plane. Please refer to exercise #5 and 6. March in-place while you swing your arms and you will learn the KEY to swinging on the TSP and how the Pivot can be aligned to automatically move the right shoulder On-Plane/Down-Plane every time without any effort. Keep the balls of your feet on the ground and lift your heels as you march. Experiment by exaggerating the "march" for you to feel that the Hips and Shoulders move differently but are synchronized. Don't pull the arms down, let the pivot do that. Notice that your Hips move in an alternating pattern from front to back and back to front while your shoulders move kind of up and down.

Please notice that your hips turn, but you aren't rotating them. The bending and straightening knees allow the turn.

HK said that if you can't get the right shoulder back to the plane during the backstroke, then use a steeper plane. In other words, use a TSP. Normal people don't have a problem getting the shoulder back to the Turned Shoulder Plane because it isn't very Far Back. In fact, from the deep shoulder turn you've become accustomed too, it will feel barely back at all.



I am guilty of several mistakes in my golf swing including mistaking effort for technique. I do over-rotate, over-swing, over-compensate and so have to unlearn quite a bit. Lynn's instructions were sublime, so simple, I was dumbfounded. :idea1:

This afternoon, I sort of "got" the Turned Shoulder Plane as a simple lagging back of about 3 or 4 inches of my right shoulder, almost a balancing out of Impact Fix and it felt almost like an Acquired Motion position. (Lynn would simply get me to move my heels! A very small move of hips and shoulders away from the line but powerful enough to send the club-head flying!) Very powerful. I kept the bucket level as I "slightly" pivoted (from the knee, then shoulder) and felt tremendous lag back and through and kept hammering the ball changing my low point and so my direction as fade, straight, or baby draw. And it was very easy to keep my head on the ball! :golfcart:

The stroke is just so counter-intuitive! :) To keep the left wrist flat and a Bent Right Wrist is just a small set of moves not the over-rotation of hips and shoulders I have been guilty of!

Thanks Daryl, Lynn, OB KEv, Jerry G and everyone!

ICT

ya, typo, sorry about that.


Flat Left Wrist:
Any Wrist Condition of the Primary Lever that doesn't move the Clubhead out of its orbit.