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Yoda 09-08-2011 08:23 PM

Stutter Steps
 
Just caught a clip of Feherty on TGC with Charles Barkley. Couldn't watch. Same as I couldn't watch during the Haney series. Why?

Because, for about a year from age 11 through 12, I stuttered. I know what it's like to open your mouth, attempt to translate thoughts into words, and nothing will come out. No matter how hard I tried -- you've all seen stutter-ers making the attempt -- nothing would come out. A pretty sad -- even desperate -- state of affairs. It's the talking yips.

I struggled against it.

My classmates tolerated it (and behind my back, no doubt made fun of it).

My dad bought me speech records.

All to no avail.

To make a long story short, it one day just went away.

If Charles Barkley came to me today for golf lessons, I'd tell him to leave the clubs at home. Instead . . .

We'd go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttering. We'd talk about Repetition and Prolongations.

At least then, we'd know what we were up against.

At least then, we'd have a chance.

:salut:

JTillery 09-08-2011 11:27 PM

Good idea....I was thinking of going here with him

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_collar

:laughing9

JTillery 09-08-2011 11:30 PM

And if that didnt work, then here

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing

BerntR 09-08-2011 11:58 PM

I wonder if he wouldn't stutter less if he got into a position at the top that supported what he tries to do in the downswing. I sense conflicting alignments. I bet he has a hitter inside bursting to get out.

PS: A famous former Swedish ski jumper - Jan Bokloew - was stuttering. During one interview on TV the stuttering was brought up and he told the program host that he never stuttered when he sang. So they did the rest of the interview singing. It was amazing and also a heart warm interview.

Yoda 09-09-2011 12:08 AM

'Ten-Hut!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JTillery (Post 86761)

And if that didnt work, then here

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing

I have no problem with fishing.

Fishing shows?

Now, that's different.

Ask comedian Brett Butler.

She had a problem with her first husband who would watch fishing shows . . . and pay attention.

Oops!

I just posted her "fishing" routine from YouTube, watched it through -- :shock: -- and had to delete it.

Sorry!

:laughing9

Yoda 09-09-2011 12:24 AM

Singin' With No Pain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 86764)

A famous former Swedish ski jumper - Jan Bokloew - was stuttering. During one interview on TV the stuttering was brought up and he told the program host that he never stuttered when he sang. So they did the rest of the interview singing. It was amazing and also a heart warm interview.

Mel Tillis, country music star, is one of the better known examples of this phenomenon. Read his personal letter here:

http://nefsky.com/tillis.htm

:salut:

BerntR 09-09-2011 01:25 AM

Talk about turning a handicap into a major asset:salut:

faux_maestro 09-09-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 86764)
I wonder if he wouldn't stutter less if he got into a position at the top that supported what he tries to do in the downswing. I sense conflicting alignments. I bet he has a hitter inside bursting to get out.

PS: A famous former Swedish ski jumper - Jan Bokloew - was stuttering. During one interview on TV the stuttering was brought up and he told the program host that he never stuttered when he sang. So they did the rest of the interview singing. It was amazing and also a heart warm interview.

This is a well known phenomenon to musicians....there is a slight difference between the parts of the brain and neural pathways used during singing vs. normal speaking. There are many great singers in the world who have or currently do struggle with speech.

O.B.Left 09-10-2011 02:06 PM

Lynn I have a hard time with public speaking and went to see The Kings Speech without knowing what it was about. Just about had a heart attack, wanted to leave actually.

I made it to the end though, did not die and can highly recommend it to you.


Speaking of royalty Ive always wondered if Sir Charles could walk a line of balls Wild Bill Melhourne style, continuously swinging back and through. It might be similar to the singing thing. Hank had all those balls teed up for him but it was never attempted. That Radius shortening Dip might not happen, who knows?

Yoda 09-10-2011 07:46 PM

Tomorrow Is Another Day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 86787)

Lynn I have a hard time with public speaking and went to see The Kings Speech without knowing what it was about. Just about had a heart attack, wanted to leave actually.

I made it to the end though, did not die and can highly recommend it to you.

Yes, saw the movie and thoroughly enjoyed it. Interestingly, I have had zero problems with st-stt-stttt --whew! -- stuttering for the past fif-fif-ffff -- whew! -- fifty-five years.

Think I'm okay now.

:confused1

O.B.Left 09-10-2011 11:22 PM

"One piece total motion" baby.

JTillery 09-13-2011 10:54 AM

It is an interesting question though,......what WOULD you do with Charles Barkley everybody?????? (physically). Like a lot of students, he couldn't care less about hearing about theory, just wants to be able to find his ball.

who's first? :confused1

drewitgolf 09-13-2011 02:33 PM

The Barkleys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JTillery (Post 86832)
It is an interesting question though,......what WOULD you do with Charles Barkley everybody?????? (physically). Like a lot of students, he couldn't care less about hearing about theory, just wants to be able to find his ball.

who's first? :confused1

While I did not watch Sir Charles, I would get him to know where his Hands are at all times, never let him reach Top 10-21-A and teach him Drive Loading 10-19-A. If that doesn't work, switch him to playing left handed, where the brain does not have any information that would cause his right handed deeply ingrained habits to appear.

BerntR 09-13-2011 02:54 PM

It looks to me like CB is a natural hitter, but at the same time it seems clear he has a very strong urge to steer the club face square towards impact.

I bet his intuitive understanding of rhythm has flaws. He doesn't know how to let the right forearm and the RFFW gradually (and quite naturally once you know how to do it) turn into the swing plane and square up the club face without steering.

This was something that I didn't see or hear HH address at Golf Channel, and appearently it wasn't addressed here either:



In both cases the symptoms was reduced substantially, but only for a little while. The presence of a deep rooted infection was evident in the videos after both those teaching efforts, even in his very best strokes. They gave him something that reduced the symptoms for the time being, while what he really needed was a "penicillin" cure of fundamentals.

A lot of the errors that CB thinks and acts goes right to the heart of TGM: Rhythm, flat left wrist, hinge action, finish swivel. Yoda has the right tools to do something. He has put it all in the arhcives already. Some of it in this thread, for instance: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ghlight=swivel

JTillery 09-13-2011 08:03 PM

Theres no doubt there are deep rooted mental blocks and fear going on when hes by himself. Whoever modest Dunigan is, he definitely had him swinging better there........even with the blame game disclaimer at the beginning :) :) :)

That post impact drag drill was pretty grossly overdone though IMO.... #1 , the less his brain is on results at impact the better, and #2.........well, aint nobody thats any good looking like that :confused1


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