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Yoda 02-24-2011 09:45 AM

The Hand-Controlled Pivot and Plane
 
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The point of this video is that the Body supports the intention of the Hands, not vice-versa. Compare the hand-to-shoulder relationship in the photos below: it is identical. The only difference is the waist bend.

When your Hands know what they're supposed to do, the Body will provide the necessary transport. This is a huge concept, one that will free you forever from the bondage of Pivot-Controlled Hands.

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Loading and Aiming Thrust (Horizontal Plane)

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Yoda 02-25-2011 12:38 PM

Comments?
 
We edited the above post elsewhere, and it never came up under the Today's Posts tab. I think it's important. Let me know what you think!

:golfcart2:

KevCarter 02-25-2011 01:38 PM

Great stuff, it answers a lot of current questions on the forum!

Thanks,
Kevin

innercityteacher 02-25-2011 02:45 PM

Experience and Freedom to Experiment
 
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The point of this video is that the Body supports the intention of the Hands, not vice-versa. Compare the hand-to-shoulder relationship in the photos below: it is identical. The only difference is the waist bend.

When your Hands know what they're supposed to do, the Body will provide the necessary transport. This is a huge concept, one that will free you forever from the bondage of Pivot-Controlled Hands.

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Loading and Aiming Thrust (Horizontal Plane)

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Loading and Aiming Thrust (Inclined Plane)


I don't have the time, now, to incorporate all the clever concepts into this classic Queen tune. I'll have more time this weekend, but others are welcome to expresss themselves.

I just want to comment on Lynn's post.

I tried, for about two weeks, to do only what I needed to to maintain constant pressure on PP # 3. My body hurt everywhere. :crybaby:

I had an incredibly wide arc and my triceps ached at angles I did not think possible! Every now and then, I busted the ball really far and straight. When I wrote about this, here, my friends were concerned and gracious as I told them about the pain I was experiencing.

They had experience and that guided their freedom to experiment. I do not have the skills of my friends here, so I gave up the # 3 PP contact.

I went back to setting up with my body positions. This is my own damn fault (Jimmy Buffet). "Some people claim that there's a woman to blame, but I think it's my own damn fault." I chose to slog through my own insights instead of seeing Lynn sooner. So I wasted away again and again in "limited Pivotsville," looking for my lost shaker of LAG...

I also ignored Lynn in another way, by using my clubs instead of curtain rods and dowells, which I just started to use and I am going to stick that "I DO WELL WITH MY DOWELS," saying on my forehead with a stencil and highway paint. :o

By feeling my hands do LBG coaching, I discovered my FLW was not flat and all sorts of planer irregularities. What I'm trying to say to those reading this is that our wrong experiences based on our high hcp's like my 10.9, should be willing to follow Lynn's lead in his instruction TO THE LETTER BECAUSE THE MAN KNOW HIS STUFF!

I WILL DO MY PP#3 DRILLS WITH CURTAIN RODS AND BECOME BETTER!

ICT


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Etzwane 02-27-2011 02:28 AM

Hand controlled pivot is one the things that really scared me when I read the book. It just triggered an alarm that said "not for me!" because I always fight a tendancy to overcontrol and steer the golf club. Then I learnt from here that this means being conscious of the hands, of where I want to send them. Not enough to stop the steering. My current thought on that is that I need to form the flying wedges, picture in my mind the structure of the wedges and the hands at their tip as well as the plane, sending the hands and the intact flying wedges to the Top (or End).

Still hacking...

innercityteacher 02-27-2011 01:30 PM

Uppercutting golfing ignorance
 
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The point of this video is that the Body supports the intention of the Hands, not vice-versa. Compare the hand-to-shoulder relationship in the photos below: it is identical. The only difference is the waist bend.

When your Hands know what they're supposed to do, the Body will provide the necessary transport. This is a huge concept, one that will free you forever from the bondage of Pivot-Controlled Hands.

Attachment 2641

Loading and Aiming Thrust (Horizontal Plane)

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Loading and Aiming Thrust (Inclined Plane)

This video describes an "uppercut" motion combining all 3 zones of a golf swing (Body Pivot/1, Arms/2, and Hands/3).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smYDJ0Ut-G0

Yesterday, at the urging of a driving range buddy, Anthony, after we had discussed most of the published literature by Ben Hogan, Moe Norman, and VJ Trolio's "The Final Missing Piece," we started discussing being connected, PIvot, keeping the right elbow down. As Anthony started Swinging with his right arm he hit several perfect one arm drives 250 yards plus with his one arm. As I tried to do this, Anthony said "Throw an uppercut!" ( He has looked at LBG several times.)


Wow! Power, speed and accuracy.


I have practices constantly this last year in isolating different zones to master some part of TGM. This one complex motion of uppercutting, which focuses on Hitting with the right hand, is a great way to explain the golf Swing and Hit.


ICT

innercityteacher 02-27-2011 01:42 PM

In relationship to the uppercut motion, consider more excellent LBG video. Do this and then do the two-handed uppercut or Hogan's "medicine ball throw."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wd2D350qws

Get a good grip, set your right arm with a dowel or curtain rod on a table at chest level fully extended almost, tilt, bend the right elbow and punch a bully or evil dictator in the stomach, hard.

Golf = victory over evil dictators and bad things everywhere ; >

innercityteacher 02-27-2011 01:59 PM

Repeat after me and I will begin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCWUyW0cN-w

Imagine Lynn uppercutting golfing ignorance!

ICT

innercityteacher 02-27-2011 02:04 PM

In Karate, they warned of over-acceleration. The stroke in golf is deliberate, heavy, and not quick tp paraphrase Lynn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhE_zS0j6fo


Drag the mop as you uppercut!

ICT

innercityteacher 02-27-2011 06:39 PM

Weird!

Short back stroke for Hitting =lots of control to Both Arms Straight much better carry in the air and amazing control with Hinges, while the ball feels like it stays on the club face a long time.

By driving the "uppercut" into the #3 PP and to Both Arms Straight, the Titleist Z muscle backs feel like "buttah!" at impact.

Driver = 210 yards of carry with slight fade. (Range balls and 53 degrees in Philly). 9 iron is 130 yards of carry and 7 iron is 150 yards of carry. (Thanks Kevin, for da blades!)

JerryG, the two hybrids you talked me into carry 190 yards (16 degrees) and 180 ish for the 3 hybrid, 19 degrees). Thanks.


ICT

JerryG 02-27-2011 07:40 PM

You betcha, City.
Thank you for posting Yoda's vids above.

JerryG, the two hybrids you talked me into carry 190 yards (16 degrees) and 180 ish for the 3 hybrid, 19 degrees). Thanks.


ICT[/quote]

KevCarter 02-27-2011 10:31 PM

Sounds like you are getting all your gaps covered Patrick. Nice job guys!!!


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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 82687)
Weird!

Short back stroke for Hitting =lots of control to Both Arms Straight much better carry in the air and amazing control with Hinges, while the ball feels like it stays on the club face a long time.

By driving the "uppercut" into the #3 PP and to Both Arms Straight, the Titleist Z muscle backs feel like "buttah!" at impact.

Driver = 210 yards of carry with slight fade. (Range balls and 53 degrees in Philly). 9 iron is 130 yards of carry and 7 iron is 150 yards of carry. (Thanks Kevin, for da blades!)

JerryG, the two hybrids you talked me into carry 190 yards (16 degrees) and 180 ish for the 3 hybrid, 19 degrees). Thanks.


ICT


chipingguru 02-28-2011 03:16 PM

The hands passively aim while the body propells?

I think that is on Ben's mat.

innercityteacher 02-28-2011 03:51 PM

fighting with the power package as your friend
 
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Originally Posted by chipingguru (Post 82718)
The hands passively aim while the body propells?

I think that is on Ben's mat.

I didn't mean to say that CG. Sorry If I misled you.

PP # 3 is holding the LAG or weight of the club. RFT/EA to start, Angle Hinge face slightly open.

If you were Bruce Lee defending yourself against the drug-crazed minions of an evil Asian warlord, you might want to assault the throat region of some poor, very tall schlub with your stiff, power loaded # 3 PP. You would step into that evil person and drive your Power Package up and into that guy's throat feeling the back elbow smashed against your side and stiff so that your body thrust would mess up the fool and you could move on to other evil minions. (They travel in groups of hundreds, after all.)

Because you are pretending to be Bruce Lee, you should yell and contort your face to really scare the other driving range people.

Your # 3 PP is targeted to be driven to China and up into some evil minion. Step into the downward thrust driving the # 3 PP to the inside aft quadrant of the ball. ( Please do this on grass or you might be sore the next day.) As you step into the shot with vigor, allow the force to carry you to Both Arms Straight and up. There is no Finish Swivel because you are Hitting and I am not sophisticated enough yet, to describe exactly what happens past Both ARms Straight.

It is a lot like a baseball player striding forcefully into a pitch and you bring your elbow to your side so hard that the whole Power Package goes up then rotates.

My first feelings were to drive my elbow under and up into a guy's chin. Later, I incorporated the PP # 3 into that feeling. DO BASIC MOTION FIRST, THEN ACQUIRED....CHIP AND LOOK OUT!

I think I understand why tour players hate 50 yard shots, sometimes. I felt I was chipping with my elbow and the ball was leaving like a bullet. I could even feel the shaft flex which was very new to me. The elbow drive through my side fired my hands but my long right index finger extended down in a PP # 3 form was really feeling some shaft torque.

I hope this helps. Ask away. Others will help.

ICT

innercityteacher 02-28-2011 03:54 PM

And....

KEEP THE HITTING STROKE SHORT-BELOW THE WAIST, THEN BELOW THE SHOULDER!! IT IS CRAZY HOW EASILY YOU CAN DO THE SLIGHTEST RFT/EA AND MURDERLIZE (I AM AN EDUCATOR AND I CAN MAKE STUFF UP LIKE THAT WORD) THAT LITTLE BALL!

ICT


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