Pressure Point Combinations
 

How many (and which ones) (of 15) combinations of Pressure Points have you tried out - and what were the effects? Which ones do you normally use? And why do you use them in this way?

I always use pp#2. The pressure in the three last fingers in the left hand is vital to me. And I alwayss use pp#1 and pp#3 to. PP#3 is a companion to pp#1 and also good error sensor. If PP#3 takes over the pressure from pp#1 I know I am in trouble. Most of the time I use pp#1 and pp#3 for driveloading in the late downstroke, but sometimes only for extencior action. I use these two for adding finesse in the short and long game.

I try to not use pp#4 much as a power souce as I don't beleve it has much power to offer and that it seems like trying to max it only ruins the synchronization of pivot and arms. PP#4 is mostly a sensor for me.

PP4 always essential. Even if it's not active, it is a monitor especially for alignment and ball position.
PP4 and PP2 I concentrate on when drag loading. I drag load my woods. If I'm playing well I try to add some drive unloading with PP1

For the irons I focus on PP4 and PP3. It's not a drag/drive loading motion. Rather I feel like I'm pushing/pulling the club.

I've spent all my focus on 1 and 3. Once I start back in the dungeon due to snow, I will try to focus more on other combinations.
Thanks for the thought.

4-2-3 all active, all dragging the Clubhead, all being Thrust by the Pivot.

A tribute to pp#2
 

PS (pre script): Daryl probably uses pp#1 as well. But only for extencior action, right?

Pressure point combinations is similar and different than accumulators. Extencior action doesn't use Accumulator#1 but still uses the associated pressure points.

Proper pp#2 pressure at impact is IMO as fundamental as it gets.

If you want to keep things simple this is a very good key to focus on. It basically takes care of The Three Basic imperatives: It is the physical equivalent of TGM's geometrically flat left wrist. It IS a Clubhead Lag Pressure Point - and IMO the most significant by far. And if you control it and keep it throughout your stroke you will get a straight Plane Line. And it is also the essense of rhythm. The only thing it doesn't cover of the TGM fundamentals is a stationary head and balance.

A lot of people who come here to LBG and learn TGM seem to be very inspired by the hitting protocol and change their stroke pattern towards hitting. For me it was the other way around. I already had plenty of hit impulse in my stroke. My main problem was pp#2 pressure that varied from day to day and stroke to stroke. And the stroke was never better than my pp#2 pressure through impact. Through TGM I became much better to pull that rope through the ball and that has made a huge and lasting different to consistency.

The better I control pp#2 the better I strike the ball; putter or driver or anything inbetween.

Great post BerntR!

This is what I really love about TGM and LBG. Right here in this thread. So many different ideas, so many ways to get er done, and all of them are correct.

Air, I'll bet you are learning so much this week in Cuscowilla, I can't wait to hear more!

Kevin

Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?

Hmmmm, great questions John!

I will look forward to hearing the more advanced ideas from others....

My first thoughts:

1) PP #3. Used incorrectly by my students when their grip is out of alignment. PP #3 must be set behind the shaft to deliver the sweet spot on plane.

2) PP #4 can be held too long. YODA and VJ Trolio show the example of the towel under the arm drill. The towel must fall out just past low point or you are not fully taking advantage of PA #4.

Sorry if too obvious and basic (or wrong!) :-) ... :salut:

Kevin

The usual poor shot is created by incorrect ressure point pressure. How could it not be?

Remember that everything that moves the club is channeled through pp#1, #2 and #3. Unless you have some counter productive pressure points not listed in TGM - for instance through a very odd grip.

BerntR,

Am I correct in saying that the pressure points don't exert the pressure, rather they feel the pressure?

JG

I have used them all incorrectly

PP4 .....I prefer to feel a tighten at the armpit with external rotation of the left humerus. If I just let it fall Im not using the pect major or the rotator cuff muscles particularly the supra and infraspinatus muscles. IMO this is what give a positive torque to the shaft and the full HH.

PP2......I have broken both my 4th and 5th metatarsal bones, so when my last three fingers hurt, I know I'm doing something wrong.
The left hand doesn't work as a whole unit like putting.
I get into trouble when my left thumb moves to the top of the grip and I zero out acc #3 and SWING. I wont be able to use PP2 to full potential and the back of my left hand hurts.
I believe in a stronger left hand grip to max PP2. Firm pressure on the last three fingers only. I found that the better utilization of PP2 cause blisters over base of the fingers.

PP3...and PP1.....well that would be another post.

Accumulated power, force to be applied, is exerted against the club, directly or indirectly, via the pressure points (6-C-1 and 7-11).

PP3 is also used to monitor (the feel of) lag pressure.

How is force applied or exerted "indirectly" via the pressure points? This would seem to me to be something that cannot be felt in the real world. Something that is said to be real but not able to be felt.
Also, when swinging, how can you feel/monitor PP#3 when you are pulling (with the left hand/arm), especially when the focus is on the left side (hand,arm), not the right? To me, this is like the Emperor's New Clothes. Those that say they can see it just don't want to admit they can't see it.

pp#4 is indirectly. All power is channeled through pp#1, #2, #3.

To your second question. That you're not driving with your right hand doesn't mean that it'snt used to firm up the power package structure. PP#1 /#3 is important for swingers as well. If they use extencior action. Which they should do.

What BerntR said, plus............

the lag pressure felt on PP3 at transition (or before even) is monitored (felt) throughout the remainder of the swing - unless it is lost.

The hands work as a unit throughout the golf stroke, whether swinging or hitting. Pulling or pushing they are in it together.

What they said but.... Get in your car and accelerate till you feel some lag pressure on your back as it get presssed into the seat. Is it direct or indirect? Is the car being thrusted forward at your back/ seat point of contact?

So, when you are performing a swinging procedure, the pressure at PP#3 and PP#1 is indirect, on the downswing?

All I can feel from the top of the swing to impact is the maintaining of the bent right wrist and some sense of a non bent left wrist (not the feeling that my left wrist is flat). The feeling in my right hand is monitored in the 2 middle fingers of the right hand. From these 2 fingers I can feel when my right wrist straightens.

I have been trying to get the feel of PP#3 and PP#1 to no avail. Actually, when I try to feel PP#3 I always get throwaway (when swinging), casting on the downswing.

Drag a "Wet Mop". Pressure Points can be trained to sense the Inertia of the Clubhead (the resistance of any physical object to a change in its state of motion or rest). PP's sense Clubhead Acceleration rate and direction.

When you drag a dry mop, you feel the weight of the mop head in addition to friction between the mop and floor and you can feel pressure in your hands. When the mop is wet and heavier, the greater weight and friction become leveraged against specific points in your hands; "Pressure Points". Pressure point training begins here.

Use your Pivot to Drag the wet mop and allow the inertia to leverage against each of the #4,1,2,3 Pressure Points.

Normally, the faster the Pivot, the greater the Pressure. But ultimate control is gained when you learn High Pressure - Low Speed, without throwing away the Clubhead.

Good stuff Daryl. Thank You!

From where I sit, the emporer is very well dressed, kinda looks like Polo. :)

Kevin

Monkutare , great handle by the way, to your first question , its up to you but normally if you are hitting #1 is direct drive, if you are swinging #1 is not being thrust against. Either way swinging or hitting , normally the #3 is not being thrust against but only senses the inertia. Its on the aft of the shaft like the seat against your back in the car. Inertia as opposed to a point which is thrust against. This Lag Pressure dissipates as acceleration slows or when the clubhead passes the hands making it very useful for monitoring thrust and also directing thrust when you Trace the delivery path of the clubhead through the ball with it.

With training the #3pp becomes an indispensable tool. To sustain the amount of pressure sensed is to maintain a rate of acceleration. Force = Mass X Acceleration. To direct it is to trace your desired clubhead path through the ball. Physics and geometry. Clubhead force and the path of the clubhead.

Lag Pressure ........Pressure......it isnt left hand wrist cock in a common golf speak sense. Nope.

Thursting against #3pp , can induce throwaway.......so it'll feel like lag pressure but it isnt. Its pressure yes but not due to inertia alone. That'd be the flippers direct drive of the #3pp. Its a false feel. Try maintaining the right wrist bend and sense the inertia at the #3 with just your right hand on the club for little chips and see if you can feel it. If you're like me you'll notice a correspondence between purely compressed , sweet contact and lag pressure maintenance. If you feel like you have maintained the amount of lag pressure through the ball but the shot is crap suspect throwaway, the false feel of direct drive at the #3pp. The right hand frozen in a bent position (appropriate amount of bend for the ball position at hand) will help with the throwaway. The right wrist does not straighten through the ball, it is not a source of power ideally , as it is often accompanied by a bending of the left wrist.

Sustain the Lag.
O.B.

I can feel PP#2 and PP#4 on the downswing. Is it essential that I can sense PP#3 and PP#1 on the downswing?

Also, why is it that when "dragging the wet mop", you cannot use the right hand to pull, since your right hand is in front of the clubhead/mop head?

#2 and #4 pp on the downswing is really great, ideal even for a Drag Loader, be he a Swinger or a Hitter with a Swingers Startdown (Four Barrel). A swinger would not typically have a strong sense at the #1 cause he isnt thrusting against it like a Hitter or Four Barrel guy. #3 is inertia something that is there unless you arent accelerating at the same rate which itself is essential to good power golf, full swings. But the perception of the #3 pp, the ability to read it to employ it as a tool is a learned skill. Indeed I believe pp#3 awareness becomes golf "concentration".

For sure there are champions with no concept for lag pressure at the #3pp, but that pressure must exist in their hands though they dont recognize it intellectually. The oh so common "trigger finger" of the great golfer suggests that to me, though its an assumption on my part I admit. There is lag pressure elsewhere in the grip too of course not just at the #3, but given a common grip type thats where its focused. I would say that any good golfer has a feel in his hands he employs but is #3pp (awareness) a requisite to good golf?.........No. But the presence of lag pressure, inertia is. So why not find a method of sensing it, meetering it, directing it through the ball. Hence the lag pressure point , #3pp.

Speaking of "directing" the #3pp, the #3 attaches to defines the top of the Longitudinal Center of Gravity, the Sweetspot defining the other end. So to direct the #3 is to direct the sweetspot specifically , literally. So #3 awareness can be restated to "sweetspot awareness". Putting your brain in your hands is really also putting it in the sweetspot.

You can drag the wet mop with a leading right hand/arm........that would be the Right Arm Swingers version of the analogy. The Drive Loader, would be Drive the wet mop. The Drag Loaders would be Drag the wet mop. The Four Barrel guys would be drag then drive the wet mop.

OBL
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I have been trying to work through the basics, but it is frustrating.