Cut shot
 

or not a cut shot - that's the question.

Does it need to be vertical hinging or can a cut shot also be done with angled hinging? Does it even have to be a cut shot? Maybe it is good enough to let it be a normal reguired motion pitch shot?



I find vertical hinging difficult. Maybe angled hinging gets the job done to get the ball high enough with a SW/LW, although it will roll a little more?

By the way - is it the bounce of the SW or the leading edge that hits the ground in these types of shots? Or does that depend on what kind of shot you want to do? (In what way - how does this work?)

When experimenting with Vertical Hinging try a 10-2-D Grip.

If you feel the urge - be my guest to put this in laymen's terms...

I guess you're talking about a flop shot, or a lob here, luftluft.

Lots of hands motion. Pull through and pull left. Aim for a finish wher the right hand is under the left. It really isn't that hard.

To get a precise flop or semi flop it is imperative to have control of the effective loft at impact. That means, you need to know exactly where you want to have your hands when the club face meets the ball.

Takk,takk.
What I really mean is - is it possible to do these short, but high enough shots to get over a bunker etc and avoid the vertical hinging? Is angled hinging good enough for this type of shot? I'm trying to find a shot that is not too difficult and still gets the job done. And there is still the question about if it is the bounce or the leading edge of a SW that does the job.

The "Cut Shot" is indispensable for anyone who misses the Green on the High Side (innercityteacher). Who in their right mind would ever do such a thing (innercityteacher).

The "Cut Shot" is any stroke that uses Vertical Hinging. It has a higher than normal trajectory and exceptional backspin for stopping power.

Vertical Hinging is the Clubface Laying Back Only through Impact and the Impact Point on the Ball is the same as the separation point. In other words, the ball went along with the clubface - no loss of compress which means that distance control can be calculated and learned.

The "Lob" is a special application "Cut Shot". It's a category of "Cut Shot" because it also uses Vertical Hinging. But, it loses compression ( a lot) because the Impact and Separation points are not the same. Unpredictable. I call it the "Poor Mans" Cut Shot. I use the term "Poor" because it's like a "poorly executed" Cut Shot (see innercityteacher). You need to Bend the Left Wrist. Remember when Phil Mickelson demonstrated a shot that landed behind him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=3Psl...eature=related

1..Yes, Angle Hinging and even Horizontal Hinging is ok.
2..The Ball leaves the Clubface before the Club touches the ground (except bunkers). So what's the bounce for? :laughing9

The question shouldn't be one of your ability because you can learn any of these shots. An important question is "how much can I allow the Ball to roll after landing?". Ball Control - TGM.

I think I understood everything you said. Thanks for the effort. As you see from my reply to Bernt's answer, I'm hoping to avoid the vertical hinging and keep it on a more manageable level for me. I see you beat me to it, but what about the bounce/leading edge question? Has this been answered before since no one wishes to say anything (more) about it?

Vertical Hinging is relatively easy (simplified) if you adopt the 10-2-D grip. You don't score with a 5 iron.

You are right that I never have had a hole in one on a 160 yards par 3, but that day may still come...!? By the way how's your flipping working out? U r not flipping out?

Find a stroke that works for you and keep it simpe. If you learn to control how hard and how high you will be in great shape compared to most players around the greens.

No need to get fancy as long as a more lofted club + a simple stroke can get the job done.

That's what I wanted to hear (at this stage).

airair,
Please take some time and just chip for 30 minutes or so using only vertical hinging. I think if you follow D's grip instruction, think of keeping the back of your left hand, palm of right hand and club face finishing all facing the sky (if I am mistaken, D, please correct me quickly). It will pay off handsomely. Right after that stick tees in the ground at different distances and chip to them using only vertical hinging. It won't be long and you will have a GoTo shot you will use many times each round you play. To me it kind of feels like tossing bean bags with both hands up into the air so they land flat. The ball behaves nearly as well as the bean bag.

To hit short shots higher/cutty-er . . . open the face some move the handle BACK AND DOWN . . . that's gonna make your left wrist look MAJOR BENT . . . which doesn't fit my eye . . . I like the shaft and the left arm IN LINE . . . soooooo rotate your body to an OPEN alignment until you can get your left arm and the shaft IN LINE with the shaft, handle and face conditions you've set up. Then you can angle hinge it or hit your "normal" shot with out feeling like you are manipulating it so much.

PROCEDURE:

1. establish a. amount of face open b. handle height c. amount of layback for the required shot (you may need to experiment with the variables). . . impact fix shaft/handle/face conditions

2. put your grip on with a "normal" or Square Stance

3. See if your brain/eye can handle the "freakish" wrist conditions this specialty shot fix requires . . . if not then

3. Rotate your body left/OPEN until it "flattens" out your left wrist or "lines up" the shaft and your left arm (you may also want to experiment with more knee flex to lower your "COG" that helps in hitting it cutty/high too)

4. Hit the shot.

Have a look here

http://vimeo.com/4323041

Thank you for the help. In one of the free videos Yoda says this vertical hinging is something one doesn't really need to incorporate (as much as the two other hinging types). But if you first have it is a very useful motion. I understand that and if the hands are to be educated, this belongs there too. But at this stage trying to get the FLW I hope to do without it, but when "normal" chipping and pitching work, I'll get back to it....

Are you asking for a flop shot?? If so there are many ways to do it - vertical hinge, open the face, throw the blade under the ball (severe throw away), move the handle back (opposite of forward lean into the ball). Any or any combination will work with any hinge depending on the desired shot.

I must have expressed myself very poorly. I actually wanted to avoid that kind of shot and keep it so safe as possible - with a angled hinging which I think I'm beginning to know how to do(?)