Is Fred's right forearm on plane?
 

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instr...ouples#slide=2

It looks pretty close, but I know his strong grip may also make it appear that way. I have pics of Azinger and he looks on plane at set up as well, but again a very strong grip.

Thanks

I don't think that it's On-Plane.

thanks Daryl...it definately look different than say Brian or Stricker, but it somewhat ran up his forearm

Fc
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nymZnYSNSNo

Bear

In that video FC is on the TSP at Impact. His Right Shoulder is perfectly On Plane through Impact. I might be good to examine his pivot to determine what and how his pivot components work (mechanics).

David Lee is convinced Fred uses what he calls the counter fall.

Float loads, lateral move to the left heel as his arms drop, combined w/ a slight "fall back" away form the target line, to counter act the weight of his arms swinging at the ball.

Whether or not that is really what Fred is doing, I dont know, but it does "look" effortless.

absolutely, I wish I could get my shoulders that steep, and lose this friging "round house" move that is killing my game right now.

I cant swing on the elbow plane or TSP right now...pretty bleak:crybaby:

Review Exercises # 5,6,8, and 9. They should get rid of the Roundhouse Pivot.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7459.html

The counter fall in my book is very real and makes a lot of sense from a balance standpoint. I know when I have it down and doing it well the swing gets very easy.

MORAD and SnT have the "lean", its the same concept.

I know this is going to sound goofy, but as a drop slider (hips slide, right shoulder drops) how would one go about getting more "roundhouse" into your swing.

I'll do it...thanks Daryl

Im learning a lot from your post's BTW

Do you do his drills? I went out and did some 7 iron shots using his instruction....heaved up my power package (disruptive shoulder turn take a way?) got my hands high, got onto my left heel and felt like I was falling back just a tad, let the arms drop and it was amazing who effortless it was.

Problem was I went out the next day and couldnt do it:( I would love to be able to swing like that, and maybe I need to devote a full 6 months to his pattern/drills, but Im kind of convinced that Im wired to be a hitter. I played hockey baseball and tennis my whole life, so me and my right arm are are good friends:happy3:

But, whether or not I can "hit" my way into my next 20 years of golf I dont know, Gravity golf is tempting as a low body stress pattern, albiet very tough if your not wired to have that kind of tempo (i.e get the arms up there, wait, then drop)

Stay centered between your feet. A Slight Slide only of 2". You may slide 2" by trying to prevent the slide. That's enough to to feel the swing rounding out a little.

I think the drills are goofy if you ask me, they may work. My instructor I have worked with this winter said its a small lean towards your left heal and thats all we really worked on.

Most people leave their upper Center of Gravity to far to the right, this is just one way of getting going in the right direction.

The drills are goofy, and I have done a few of them in the privacy of my garage:laughing9

That "small lean" you mention is good swing thought....

I had a high school player who's father was a real Gravity Golf guy. The kid and his dad would do those drills for hours on end and they could seemingly hit the ball while hanging from a lamp-post. Both still had a tough time scoring, however.

probably not enough percision w/ their procedure when they are actually playing golf.... What I like about TGM is that even if you just use the thoughts of tracing a plane line, keeping your head very steady, and maintaining a flat left wrist, you play better golf.

Im mean even if you arent exactly on the line when you attempt to trace, youre going to be a helluva lot closer to being "on plane" than if you dont even try to trace....