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Impact Fix Address
I want to be sure all the hitters who are interested see this wonderful article at our Australian Sister site ISG. Really good stuff.
It seems the preference for most is a mid body hands set up using lagging clubhead takeaway. I think that is a wonderful, beautiful way to play the game, for the majority. However, myself and many other hitters prefer impact hands address, as does Mr. Gay at present. I was lambasted on another site for expressing this personal preference, and really didn't know how to defend myself, other than believing in different options and knowing what works for me. I'm not interested in debating methods anyway... no right, wrong, or best. This wonderful article by Mr. Smith, with help from my friend Loren, explains to me why I prefer it for my own game, if that sentence makes any sense at all. OPTIONS. It's nice to have friends at another site with like ideas and professional attitudes. These gentlemen also credit YODA's teaching often, in fact they do constantly! http://www.iseekgolf.com/golfinstruc...een-good-lucky Cheers to our Aussie buddies! Kevin |
Good point Kevin, one other issue us mid-body hands at address people need to remember is the necessity of establishing the grip at impact fix, not at adjusted address. I have been fighting an open clubface the last few weeks until I reviewed this gem of Homer's, which is incredibly important. Glad you are out on the course again buddy. We have to get together again soon.
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I wish I were back on the course, took a couple of steps backwards with my elbow. I need to get back to the doctor and see what needs to be done so I can swing. Back to basic motion, maybe that will do for me what it did for Brian Gay! :) Kevin |
Kev are you saying most posters on the other site are Hitters that prefer adjusted? Or just golfers in general swingers included?
Me when Im Hitting, which is most of the time, I go back and forth on Startup from Fix or Adjusted. I'd stay with Fix if it werent for my love of the feeling of the Lagging Takeaway. ALTHOUGH Yoda does mention in the Premium Brian Gay video how Brian startsup from Fix but does have a touch of Lag and Drag! Interesting stuff. Also in the Premium Address Routine Video with Ted Fort (who startsup from Fix) Yoda alludes to 12-1-0's reco for Adjusted as an example of Homers desire for "Sameness" between the two patterns. (Its about 14 minutes into the tape.) This sameness makes it easier for the person who goes back and forth between Hitting and Swinging but Yoda is very clear that Homer had a stated preference for Hitters who have first mastered 12-1-0 Hitting from Adjusted to then move to Starting up from Impact Fix. Although to each their own. By the way the Address Routine Video is a must watch for Swingers and Hitters..........it covers so much ground. The outline of the Startdown Waggle, the visual equivalents etc etc etc. It isnt just about a common golf speak "routine" , no Sir. Its pure gold that one. Maybe my fave. |
Hi OB,
It was a non-TGM site where they were talking of golfers in general... a method / band-aid teacher who doesn't understand options. I agree, the address routine videos are wonderful, and I am certainly not disagreeing with anything Mr. Kelley or our friend Mr. Yoda teach. You KNOW that!!! Kevin |
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I wasnt thinking or suggesting that at all Kev. Far from it, sorry. Perhaps I didnt choose my words carefully enough. Just trying to provide some info on Fix vs Adjusted for the Hitter. There's no "right way" but Homer really liked Startup from Fix assuming you have first mastered Adjusted it would seem. The master should be able to go back and forth between the two. Ive read that Yoda experiments with mismatched procedures at times.........Swinging from Fix, Horizontal Hinging while Hitting from Fix etc etc. Its a beautiful thing for those who can do it. |
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I always get the feeling this can't be right because the results have been so poor. Its not a lack of effort or time commitment. |
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have not seen it. I will check it out, tab that one for July golf expenses. |
Thats the one. "Address Routine" doesnt sound too sexy but its a must see for anyone making a study of TGM . Hitter or Swinger. Its goes beyond the bounds of what you might expect and provides a ton of mission critical detail. The Startdown Waggle drill alone is worth the minimal cost of the video.
P.S. Its got a entire video with the Hit Man, Ted Fort too for you Hitters out there!!! Where are you going to get that info if not right here? Ted Fort and Jeff Hull, Hitter vs Swinger, "Bat" man and Robin. |
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Naw the guys at Iseek are part of the family. No worries. The interview they did with Yoda is worthy of the LBG Hall of Fame.
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...lf+intervie w |
Yep, all on the same team for sure.
Iseek is more like TGM by stealth and when they are begging for more, we send them here for the ocean depths rather than reinvent another wheel. This wheel is so advanced that there is little or not point to trying to better it other than from within! |
It is a very strong site! I enjoy it.
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Impact Fix Address observations and questions
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Regarding EA and Impact Fix, it just seems like the Primary Lever stays stretched out and little if any wobble exists from an Impact Fix position. This is true for the RFT and the start of the down swing and the whole downswing. The EA and RFT moves the Impact Fix with Angle Hinge and Start-up Swivel beautifully. Then, Startdown in Impact Fix seems to be easily controlled by pp #4 right up to the moment when the right tricep is unleashed. This all occurred to me after hitting six greens in regulation on my front 9 yesterday. When I used Impact Fix there was no wobble and I hit the middle of the greens and drove over a seventh green by 15 yards. EA, RFT, and pp # 4 must work as one on the Impact Fix to stop the wobble. Am I missing an important point with this observation?:dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow: As a teacher, I have to say that every observation should include EA and Impact Fix as a starting point for TGM. Flying Wedges, RFT, Swivels, Primary Lever Driving and Swinging all work as promised with these two simple instructions, imho. But, my knowledge is limited to this experience since March 2010. What do you think?:dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow: Part of me is mad that these revolutionary insights are not given a revolutionary, streamlined presentation.:angry2: :angry2: :angry2: I have shaved 6 strokes off my hcp index. I can now see how a person regularly shoots par and my new goal with Impact Fix, EA, and driving the Primary Lever is two rounds of par in this October's club championship, and maybe I can pick-off a few blue-bloods at some local tournaments in the fall. Patrick |
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You have learned way more than you think. It's not revolutionary in the fact that its just 30 year old, good, God fearing TGM. What is revolutionary was YODA bringing it back to the limelight and making sense out of it for us. I hadn't heard of extensor action in my 30 years as a professional until I found LBG. YOU sir are proving to others it's benefits by having the courage to do the work. When I see folks on other sites beating down Mr. Kelley's tenants, all I need to do is read posts from guys like you and Jerry and OB to get back to reality. It's real and it works. :salut: Kevin Quote:
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I will continue to work with you, Kevin and Jerry, and anyone else on a ...
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There was an elderly 80 yr. old black gentleman and his son at the driving range last week. I was next to them in the hitting chute. "I just don't have any power anymore," the man said. "Dad, you still play good golf," was the son's response. I had been hitting Impact Fix with EA for about an hour at that point from chips to drives. It was hot and I needed a break. Plus, my left tricep and right bicep were sore. I sat next to the gentleman and told him what I had seen on "Alignment I" regarding EA. I told him it gave me power and structure on all my shots from chips to drives. He spent the next 20 minutes hitting chips and drives down the middle. I wrote down our website on a red hall pass. He was smiling when he left and telling his son to use his computer to look up the video. :) I appreciate the "natural" presentation of TGM and I need it as a teacher and golfer. But, I'm certain that we can as a community help people golf well much more quickly! Patrick |
Way to go City. Share this info with those that show some need and interest.
I regularly play with a 78 year old gent who is all about TGM in his game, but would not have a clue what I was talking about if I were to ask him about his hinges or any of the other things we are working on. He was lucky to learn from a heck of a golf pro when he was a kid in the 40's and 50's. Most of the other guys I play golf with give me enough ribbing (as I collect from them this year as opposed to previous years) so I don't offer anything until asked. I haven't been asked. On the range, however, if I see someone struggling and they ask anything at all, I refer them here and lessons with Kev before they do anything else. I was heartened to watch a grizzled pro give a lesson to an elderly gent this spring. The professional reiterated a forward leaning shaft and the right hand be aft of the shaft instead of on top or under. He placed the fellow in an impact fixed position. As I passed by I told the pro I was a friend of Homer's and he just smiled. I am in my 4th summer of retirement from teaching. I am just about out of hall passes. Quote:
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When I come to MN, in several weeks, I will bring several boxes!
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Green would be nice. We don't see much of it between October and May. No yellow, though. At my age it might be too suggestive and I'd have to leave the range too often. |
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