A 21 hcp Discovers the Magic of the Vertically Uncocking Left Wrist
 

Let me start by telling everyone how much I appreciate this site and the encouragement of Kevin, Jerry, Daryl, OB Left, and 12 Piece Bucket.

The first quote I include is from OB Left:

Id suggest that Yoda's video demonstration of an active vertical hammering/uncocking done by the left WRIST (only) was an example of a Non Automatic Release Trigger. Homer believed the path to an Automatic Snap Release was via a Non Automatic Trigger. The common Swingers Non Auto Trigger being the Left Wrist Throw. 10-20-E

The advantage of this Active Vertical uncocking is that it makes Horizontal motion less likely and also gives you more DOWN and therefore OUT. So less Steering and more In to Out on the Approach Angle. See 2-C-0.

The hacker typically tries to take the back of the ball right towards the hole , a misguided application of linear force. Logical but fatal for a side on game played with hooked clubs and a circular orbit. For balls played back of low point, most every shot therefore the ball is taken DOWN , OUT and FORWARD. For pure compression the Sweetspot on the clubface must stay in contact with the ball as if welded together and together they must travel Down and Out (to right field), the Inclined Plane demands it. The ball leaves at 90 degrees to the face at Separation meaning the face is Open at Impact. The geometry is not what everyone thinks it is at first.

The Active application of a Downward force will give you some Out given the Angled Plane..............a great thing for the new TGM er to add to his impact geometry. Add some Horizontal Hinging and voila! PUre compression.

Im wondering if this application of Downward force is best perceived as an On Plane force or a truly Downward force? Homer said that the On Plane travel of the Clubhead was a result of divergent forces after all. The Pivot providing the OUT, the Left Hand uncocking providing the DOWN etc etc . See the 2-N-1 Force Vectors.

Do we Hammer Down and just let the PIvot and CF take it along the Inclined Plane? Maybe Im talking crazy talk? Again.

City, with all due respect................we are taking thread jacking to new level again. Even Mike O. would disapprove and he is the ThreadMasta Jacka of all time. Future generations trying to archive our insights will have one heck of time unearthing these pearls of wisdom. We must protect our legacy for future generations , the Alignment Golfers who will follow us in this quest.

Why dont you start a thread on the Yoda video. There is a lot to discuss there. Lynn has added a wrinkle to the Throw, maybe, I think. A good one too. Or maybe he just asked Homer for clarification? I dunno.


Tonight, after practicing my pivot control of my hands for about 50 shots including a wide variety of chips, I got bored with hitting the ball down the middle and twisting does not help my artificial left hip and back. Plus, my front leg is 1.5 " shorter than my back (right leg).

So, let's investigate RFT and vertical hinge as a way to find power, precision and less wear and tear on this 52 year old body with a metal rod and two hip replacements. :golf:

Let's start with Lynn Blake's very simple video you can watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVws0CQqTDc

I have watched this video a lot over the winter and now during our cold Springs and thought "Man, how great would it be if the swing was that simple!" I'm a teacher and I really love showing people more effective paths to anything. Tonight, a man named Billy from New Orleans was spraying balls all over the place with no real technique.

I showed Billy the vertical uncocking with the left wrist into the ground and showed him how to do it on plane. He couldn't stop laughing and his chips with his left hand were like bb's and mostly straight. I showed him a few vertical hinge, waist high swings. that were the simplist push back and slowly turn through as the left hinge just screamed down the plane and around. The ball was high, and down the middle with PW and a 200 yard 3 hybrid (19 degrees), alternating.

But I do not want to swing, even easily, 80-90 times a round. I want to be more efficient with my mechanics. :naughty:

I adopted Yoda's video stance, pulled my RFT angle hinge from mid-body and pushed directly down using pp#1. It took me awhile to figure out that I could stand closer to the ball due to the efficiency of the club movement on plane. I also discovered that mid-body hands allowed me to feel the back elbow going straight back along my ribcage for RFT. Nice kinetic guidelines!

I started with old (ADAMS 2) woods including a tour brassie, 13 degree 3 wood and 19 degree 5 wood. It was cold and rainy, and I could never hit the brassie before tonight. I skinned it from my front heel and knew it would fade left. It cut pretty well (20 yards) at about the 200 yard marker using AH (angle hinge). I slid the ball back on the brassie to just in front of the belt buckle and the brassie ballooned about 230 yards in the air before I lost sight of it down the middle. :notworthy

Using the HH (horizontal hinge) was ridiculous! I had to use a strong grip to get the vertical feeling on plane. With the brassie and ball ahead of center and the face slightly closed, I hit very high draws or fades that simply flew past the end of the range. The more stable my tripod, the more powerful the strike.

3 Wood? I lost it in the rain near the 220 when it first bounced. The 5 wood was elevating at 190 yards on it way to landing softly with AH. It bounced at 200 with HH.

I would alternate hinges with irons and and woods. A PW with a HH rolled 135 yards. The PW AH stopped almost dead at 130 yards.
The SW flew almost 100 with AH and bounced 110 with HH. 9 iron was 140'sh with HH. And NO STRESS ON MY BACK!

So, I went to the old 9.5 degree ADAMS REDLINE driver and started with the ball back of my heel and an AH. The ball bounced into the woods past the 250. Then, things got interesting. I slid the ball up to my front big toe using an AH. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER HIT THE SWEETSPOT ON THAT DRIVER. THE NOISE WAS DEAFENING! I COULDN'T THINK TO LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO SHOTS. tHE THIRD DRIVE WAS ABOUT 8 STORIES HIGH AT THE 250 MARKER. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. For yucks I hit an HH from the front heel. It faded with a very funny "clunk" at the 250. :laughing9

I just sent in my fees for GAP (greater area Philadelphia) membership. There are a lot of nice courses I have to abuse in Philadelphia!

More on Daryl's and OB observations next time!



Patrick

Yo, innercityteacher,

When your Clubshaft (with an Iron) is parallel to the ground and parallel to the plane line during your downswing, is the "Leading Edge" of your Clubface Slightly Closed, Vertical to the Ground, or Open?


(Using "Yo Innercityteacher" is my "Rocky" imitation.

Daryl, you can call me IC or ICT if you wish.
 

Yo, yo, D, when I want to hit the angle Hinge (my version of it until corrected), my left thumb is long and on top of the shaft in the center of the handle. I feel as I turn or RFT, my right hand drifs up at a 45 degree angle and at parallel, coming down, I feel as if that 45 degree angle is maintained making the leading edge mostly open and a little laid back.

For the Horizontal Hinge, the leading edge is mostly square coming to parallel.

All help is appreciated, D.

Posting to help one of our "peeps."
 

Hi Daryl, and everyone else. Somehow,I am a "senior member" of this forum which certainly scares the hell out of me and should remind everyone of that famous Grouch Marx line, "I would never join a club that would have me as a member!"

If I attempt to answer someone who has a question about TGM, I have in mind a sort of checklist to avoid screwing up someone else's happy life.

1) What does the book say?
2) Is there specific video demonstration of the concept in question?
3) Have I an "experimental" knowledge of the subject.
4) With all that in view, can I bring both warmth (good will) and light (some small insight) to someone else's struggle?

I'm curious. If I give a totally stupid answer to a question, is there an experienced guru with a ray gun who will vaporize my silly answer before harming somone's progress?

I'm down with that in any case.

Moi

Are you kidding? I'd pay money to read your bits.
Thumb on top? Have you tried "aft of the shaft" with the left thumb? Not at 3, but somewhere in between noon and 3.
g

I need some advice on the veritical hinge. This is when the leading edge is horizontal to the ground at follow thru.
When I try to make chipping motion with v-hinging sometimes I feel the need to flip the left wrist. Any suggestions on avoiding flipping the wrist when v-hinging or should I just play that way?
Visually when I flip, I dont have a FLW at impact. My left wrist is cupped at impact Now I realized that's not acceptable for a full swing but how about a chip shot?

Bending and cupping your left wrist to simulate a Vertical Hinge is not a recommend procedure. Timing, Hand eye coordination and compression loss all add to the difficulty of ball control.

Although the Vertical Hinge is a complete act of Hand Manipulation, you can practice and become competent using a Flat Left Wrist. The ball control gained is a shot of higher than normal trajectory without spin. When the Ball lands, it hops a couple of times and stops without rolling. It's well worth the practice.

The TALY is a very helpful tool with these procedures. Until you get one, you might try a business card in your glove against the back of your hand and wrist.
Good practice of sound principles is the ticket. Practicing without purpose is just that.

Pardon me for thread-jacking but I was wondering if those who have a "TALY" find themselves adopting a Straight-line Delivery Path (no Downstroke Plane Shift) in order to maintain a Flat Left Wrist?

If someone knows the answer to that question, please remark on how the Taly has helped adjust your procedures.

Also.....has anyone ever tried to bend the Taly and used it to monitor the Right Forearm Flying Wedge?

I have been working on straight line delivery path for a year, D, but I have mainly just used the TALY for chipping and pitching while I work on hinges and especially FLW/BRW. I also use it for putting some.
Kev Carter introduced me to Straight-line Delivery Path last summer and I have been trying to make it a habit. Most of my practice is in basic motion and acquired with SLDP (looks like an educational acronym). Sometimes I have the TALY on, but I have not thought about plane shift.
I did see a fellow on some vid clip put the TALY on his right arm. I think it was for definition of aim point or something. I'm not sure.
I'm going to have to do some ruminatin'.

Daryl!!!!!! Dooohhhhhhhh! No threadjacking! Who do you think you are? MOI?

Sometimes, late at night, I wear my TALY and my dogs go crazy! But, I don't like to talk about it!

Yes, I did try a specialty glove that keeps my left wrist flat. It did help me hit crisper wedge shot and full iron shots.
On the short chips and putt, the FLW isnt allows neccessary. Does Homer's principles extent to the putting as well ?

A short game where the left wrist doesn't break down will be sharper when you're playing your best. But more important: It can give you a "low maintainance" short game.

And don't forget Neutral Left Wrist Cock. That is a must. It is easy to have it more cocked, but things go haywire. Make sure it is Neutral. See Brian Gay's chipping. Perfect.

"Level" Left Wrist. :)

Got it. Thanks.
g

innercityteacher,

Congrats with the progress.

I enjoyed your report from the range.

Thread jacker! Thread jacker! Please start an thread on "Sameness" and cease and desist.

I only suggested a terminology correction. If I get caught again, they're going to limit my Forum participation to: " Dusted & Fried -- Down Home with 12 piece bucket " :laughing9

What is meant by "level" left wrist?

Can someone give me a visual on Brian gay's neutral left wrist cock in chipping. I dont know what that motion is.

Level is part way between fully Cock and Fully Un-Cocked. The Left Wrist is Fully Cocked at the Release Point and is Fully Un-Cocked after Impact when Both Arms are Straight at the end of the Follow-Through. Preferably, the Left Wrist is Un-Cocking through Impact. And, preferably, Impact occurs when the Left Wrist is Level.

Here is the visual from YODA.

LMAO! guilteee!
 

I desereve it! A LOT!

Well, I goofed on this thread and I needed Darly to help me avoid a very silly mistake by continuing to call the "uncocking left wrist" a vertical hinge. I would like to redirect the attention of our friends and newbies to "the magic of the vertically uncocking left wrist!" (mvulw)

This is a great site, and for me, greatness comes from genuine insight and good will (light and warmth). EVeryone at this site has shown me nothing but greatness. ONWARD!!!!

HELP Mr. Webmaster!
 

How do I correct my sadly mistaken title of this thread to "Discovering the power and precision of the uncocking left wrist! ?

Thanks!

Best tournament round ever using the uncocking left wrist!
 

During our Memorial Day tournament, today, I shot my best tournament round, in recent memory, on purpose. I RFT'd the club to shoulder level and non-automatically used my RF to drive down on pp# 1. After shooting 95's and 92's the last couple weeks, it was great to only think about the angled clubface or hrizontal clubface.


My ball was on line mostly, all day! A few bad chips and "greedy" puts led me to an "87." I had 8 birdy chips or putts amd missed all of them.

More later.

Transmutations of lead to solid gold
 

Some of you will remember when I started to meditate on the vertically un-cocking left wrist. I mis-named the move as a "vertical hinge," which it is not.:naughty:

Since March of 2010, I have watched Lynn's video and struggled to understand it and apply it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVws0CQqTDc

I am here now, with a more sincere spirit than Mark Antony (Shakespeare's Julius Caeser) to "bury Caesar, not to praise him (Scene ii). (Correct my past mistakes for those lost by my mixing of metaphors.)

From the 6th edition of TGM (my boldface):

The three Basic Wrist Motions can be classified as:
*
4-A.

Horizontal *Bend and Arch (Clubshaft) *Grip Motion

4-B.

Perpendicular *Cock and Uncock (Clubhead) *Wrist Motion

4-C.

Rotational *Turn and Roll (Clubface) * *Hand Motion

*

*
By using a small 4-A at start (hand on the table, thanks Kevin!), my left wrist goes from neutral (thanks Jerry!) to 4-B, vertically cocked (thanks Daryl!). :salut:

My left leg is shorter and I realized several weeks back that I step on my left heel to do almost everything! :eyes:

So, as OB has said: "
The advantage of this Active Vertical uncocking is that it makes Horizontal motion less likely and also gives you more DOWN and therefore OUT. So less Steering and more In to Out on the Approach Angle. See 2-C-0.

The hacker typically tries to take the back of the ball right towards the hole , a misguided application of linear force. Logical but fatal for a side on game played with hooked clubs and a circular orbit. For balls played back of low point, most every shot therefore the ball is taken DOWN , OUT and FORWARD. For pure compression the Sweetspot on the clubface must stay in contact with the ball as if welded together and together they must travel Down and Out (to right field), the Inclined Plane demands it. The ball leaves at 90 degrees to the face at Separation meaning the face is Open at Impact. The geometry is not what everyone thinks it is at first.

The Active application of a Downward force will give you some Out given the Angled Plane..............a great thing for the new TGM er to add to his impact geometry. Add some Horizontal Hinging and voila! PUre compression."

Man, was he ever correct!:thumleft:

In the last 10 days, my non-automatic driving of the primary lever allows for a sequenced 4-B and 4-C that is a little frightening (but I'll get over it). I use a little stronger grip to start and then drive the primary lever (frozen everything) into a rolling hand motion at the bottom just prior to impact. :dance:

We have a 7th hole with water at the end of a blind, 280 yard carry down a straight, narrow fairway. I teed the ball high to catch it going up with a horizontal hinge. I swung very slowly (hips back, drive # 1 pp) and the ball split the middle of the fairway before landing 10 yards in front of the water. :laughing1

I made the birdie putt and made a note to never use my driver again on that hole as the ground was soaked from rain the previous night! Later that day I left a similar birdie putt 4" short, about the size of Daryl's uhmmm, umbrella in his boat drink. :smiley2304: :smiley2304:

Thanks guys!

Patrick

Preparing to roll!
 

ULW starts at address!

Shots < 150 yards start with an UNCOCKED LEFT WRIST and Turning Shoulder Plane with the ball at belt buckle. TSP BACK-DRIVE PRIMARY LEVER! THIS IS A HIT MEANING A PURPOSEFUL DRIVING OF THE FULLY UNCOCKED LEFT WRIST! THIS MUST BE INTENTIONED! THE RESULTS ARE AMAZING INCLUDING CHIPS! GOODBYE SHANKAPOTAMUS! RECALCULATE ALL DISTANCES IN PRACTICE! WARN PLAYING PARTNERS TO GET AWAY FROM BEHIND THE PIN! Yesterday was the first day I used this in competition. My short irons GAINED 10 yards and I flew over the pin ALL MORNING and my 42 would've been 32 except all the trouble on my course is behind the greens!

VULW STARTS AT ADDRESS!

Shots >/= 150 yards start with parallel left aligned narrow stance as compensation for a shorter left front leg and artificial hip TSP BACK-DRIVE PRIMARY LEVER! THIS IS A HIT MEANING A PURPOSEFUL DRIVING OF THE OF THE VERTICALLY UNCOCKED LEFT WRIST! THIS MUST BE INTENTIONED! THIS MUST START WITH A NEUTRAL LEFT WRIST THAT IS VERTICALLY COCKED BY THE TSP OR RFT!!! IF YOU DO NOT PREPARE TO ROLL YOU WILL PREPARE FOR YOUR OWN FAILURE!!! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

Yesterday, I went a little crazy and tried to use the uncocked left wrist (ULW) from the tee box! :confused1 :eyes: :confused1 :eyes: :sad2: :eyes: :confused1 :( :( :crybaby: :crybaby:

My back 9 holes turned into a 53 and I dbled and tripled the first 4 holes before giving up the ezperiment! Someone else might have the skills to use ULW everywhere. I do not! As soon as I reconfigured the neutral left wrist (Jerry :) ) my scores made a comeback to bogey city but the damage, emotionally, was done! :crybaby:

Happy Father's Day!

Patrick