Getting Stuck
 

Hi guys,new to the forum, but really enjoying it. Anyways, I have trouble starting my downswing without dropping the club slighly. My back swing is already a little flat so I need to get my hands going towards the ball immediately, but I am having trouble with it. If there are any drills someone can recommend that would be great.
Thanks

take a dowel and put it through your front belt loops so it is parallel to your plane line. If you fire the hips to hard or get too under plane, you won't be able to clear the right hip/dowel. Really gets those hands down plane.

If your backswing is very flat, do some slow practice swings with a wedge with your back against a wall (feet about a foot away). That will show you how you can use your right forearm to take the club 'UP' plane.

Get two mini mag flashlights, taped back to back. Find a straight line on the floor and practice tracing the line with the flashlights. Whichever end is pointed down should point to the line.

Read 12-3, delivery line roll prep has been a huge help to me with this issue. Also, monitoring power point #2 prevents the clubface opening at the top, which also comes along with this problem. Focusing on swinging up on plane after impact has helped much of this issue, which I have battled for 30 years with no relief until this site and the yellow book. You will find the answer here. Dropping the club underplane on start down is a wobble. Sometimes the cure lies elswhere in the swing.

More great insight Roger. I'm looking forward to seeing you Friday. I know you're taking a lesson from me, but I'm just as excited to learn more from you!

Kevin

Same here Kev, lets hope it doesn't snow.

hey! Where are you guys meeting and at what time? I want to talk to Dodger about 12-3.
How's it going, Lefty?

Hey, there is some good news about your cool weather!
 

The surviving mosquitos will be large enough to ride to Florida!:)

Links at Northfork at 930 am Jerry. Lost my draw, hope Kevin can find it. As usual I am going underplane with a little chicken wing at followthrough. He is the one who put me on to 12-3. My post above is all Kevin.

That's pretty funny because Kev and I were talking about 12-3 and viewed you as the expert. We wanted to pick your brain. I'm still thinking of you as the local 12-3 expert. I hope to see you Friday for some pickin'.
Forecast for 9:30 looks like about 40 with a little sun. Perfect spring day in Minnesnowda.

Wouldn't the non-automatic vertical hinge give you a draw perfectly on-plane? I'm taking a shot at helping, as opposed to always being helped!

6-B-3-0

Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
Photos 6-B-3-0 shows the Left Forearm version – using a slow back-and-forth motion with Horizontal Hinge Action. For the Right Forearm version, do likewise, applying Angled Hinge Action. Do both alternately until you see the distinct differences in the Rhythm and Clubhead Travel of all three of the Roll procedures. The Turning Rate of the Pivot Components – especially the Shoulder Turn as actuated by Hip Action (7-15) – MUST be identical and synchronous with the #3 Accumulator Roll, else its Rhythm gets disrupted. Or at least difficult. This requirement also dictates when and how much Downstroke Hip Slide is needed. The “On Plane” Right Forearm ALWAYS establishes and maintains the correct Clubshaft-Left Arm angle through Release and Impact. See 7-3.

My boldface added.

Yo, innercityteacher,

What do you mean by "Vertical Hinge"?

My goal is the full roll of the horizontal hinge as I attempt to follow a swinging procure in my swing. Angled hinging and vertical hinging described in 6-b are things I am not talented enough to do. If I use the full roll, lots of good things happen, angled hinging tends to brake my pivot early. The full roll after followthrough per Yoda's video on the horizontal hinge really is a game changer.

Watch Yoda's finish swivel video. This swivel take away a lot of wobble from top of the swing as you need to prepare for it at the top.

Sounds like we might not have enough out going with your down and forward... been thinking about swinging left a little too much? Something to think about before Friday...

I like your thought of Yoda's video. You take the club back PERFECTLY as he does, then it's just a matter of being prepared with the proper thoughts. You have the feel, mechanics, and knowledge, we just have to bring out the keys that start your machine.

Kevin

Nice, Daryl, Shakespeare and TGM!
 

D, dare I say it? You are one of "D" men or people, to be gender neutral.

I am refering to the vertical hinge of the left wrist. I did not use my decoder ring before my composition. I will do better, honest! :crybaby:

But, I have a nifty DVD /Youtube reference!:dance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVws0CQqTDc


And, I have a specific book reference! I'm learning to use the decoder ring!



6-B-3-0

Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
Photos 6-B-3-0 shows the Left Forearm version – using a slow back-and-forth motion with Horizontal Hinge Action. For the Right Forearm version, do likewise, applying Angled Hinge Action. Do both alternately until you see the distinct differences in the Rhythm and Clubhead Travel of all three of the Roll procedures. The Turning Rate of the Pivot Components – especially the Shoulder Turn as actuated by Hip Action (7-15) – MUST be identical and synchronous with the #3 Accumulator Roll, else its Rhythm gets disrupted. Or at least difficult. This requirement also dictates when and how much Downstroke Hip Slide is needed. The “On Plane” Right Forearm ALWAYS establishes and maintains the correct Clubshaft-Left Arm angle through Release and Impact. See 7-3.

My boldface added.

Gender Neutral? I'm as straight as Tiger Woods, but more so. :laughing9

This is how I look at myself. :laughing9 :laughing9



I don't think that "Vertical Hinging" is the Term that describes the On-Plane Uncocking of the Left Wrist. "Vertical Hinging" is used to describe a "Hinge" action that causes the Clubface to only Lay-Back through the Impact Interval.

Yoda has game!
 

And he's opening a school in the Phillipines?:laughing9


Ok, on-plane vertical uncocking of the left wrist, can be jazzed up as the OPVH (on plane vertical hammer) or LWVH (left wrist vertical hammer) or NALWVH (non automatic) or, I have it...this should warm, somewhat, the MN gang,..., the artist formerly known as V-Hammer, or just "V-hammer."