What I belive to be hitting..”BELOW”
 

What I believe to be hitting..”BELOW”

Almost everybody on the planet is a swinger after the ball leaves the club. You can’t be a hitter and use the left hand, you can Flail at it with you left hand, bow you left wrist, flip with the left, pull with the left, but you can’t hit with the left. A Hitter pushes the palm down and extends the right arm, the right hand pushes controlling the arc on the DS before impact and rotation of the pivot controls the path/release of hands @ low point on the through swing after impact.

I have asked this question on a few other forums with resistance and silence. I am trying to learn and I want to get others opinions weather it is agreeable or disagreeable.

BurleyGolf-

Hogan the Hitter 4 Barrel / 2-M-3 ?

Couples the Swinger ???

Burleygolf,

Hitter's push with their right arm and bent right wrist past impact to both arms straight which is defined as follow through.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

Okay thats a good answer and much like what I said " A Hitter pushes the palm down" you can't not have a bent right wrist if you are pushing the palm down to the ball other wise the palm would be facing the target or the sky. After the ball leaves and the pivot releases allowing the inside and up path you are still push the palm now up the plane. The only way this could not happen is if you use a cross over release, or from over hinging.

To me Lynn trying to stick the mail box stick in the ground is this very same action. If the palm is at the target @ compression then the stick is way ahead of the ball, and if the palm is pointing at your face the stick is going airborn (flip)...

BurleyGolf-

One thing you will notice is @ Compression the swingers right elbow is still bent and his shoulders are open. Swinger could throw the club forward at impact and Hitter can't.
Pure Swinger

Maybe this is why Swingers create width on the down swing or some extend the right arm well past impact???

Very confused
 

I'm confused with this post/topic.

Swingers don't/can't have a bent right wrist at impact?

Hitters don't have any elbow bend left at impact?

All swingers flip it past impact?

Hinge action defines hitting or swinging?


Just when I thought I was starting to understand TGM!

No.... Don't take this as TGM that is Lynn's job and others to explain that, I am just giving my opinion on what I believe and looking for feed back from the Great minds here... Sorry don't be confused over my post, just think of them as another golfer that is looking for answers.

BurleyGolf-

Burleygolf,

You said "you can't not have a bent right wrist if you are pushing the palm down to the ball"

A hitter pushes through Pressure Point #1 DOWN, OUT, and FORWARD to Follow Through.

A hitter is not pushing to the ball. A hitter is pushing through the ball to follow through.
At impact the hitters right arm is still bent. The right arm is not straight until follow through, and it is the straightening of this right arm that carries the bent right wrist through impact.

Homer wrote every stroke has an address, top, and finish.
You never stop at impact that encourages quiting.
The bent right wrist is pushed through impact to follow through.

Stopping at impact is quitting.

Sorting Through the Golf Nut's Catalog.

B-Ray

Yes, you are correct, but that is a though or feel as if you are pushing the palm of your hand down and ontop of the ball from an inside to out arc to target line, then as the release of the pivot makes the club go left and up the plane arc. If you look at the photos above or I will post it here again you can clearly see how I have drawn the line of right forearm to infront of ball. Swingers with the bend right elbow puts that line further out.

Yes, before you even say it I know Homer said you can be a swinger with the right arm...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iclf7SpLg_Y

Notice the Reverse C move that is controling that right arm swing and killing LB's back.. The other way to swing the right arm would be to swing out to in, not much fun it that either..

“The technique of a swinger is to accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise” (10-19-C) longitudinal.

If you want to actively swing, use of the right arm, its tendency will be to make the pivot over active. This is why Hogan said he he wished he had “Three right hands”... Not that it would not work this way, but you might want to buy stock in your local range...

Homer warning load and clear 1-F

Variations in elbow bend or location during release will disturb clubface control by the right arm making it an inferior procedure”...

Question do you honestly think this guy is not using his right hand to push and is swinging with his left???

Swinger...

Burley . . . Homer may take issue with you on this one . . .

10-19-A DRIVE LOADING Drive Loading is the “Axe Handle” technique of the “Hitter” – an out-and-out Right Arm Thrust against Clubhead Lag (Angular Inertia) striving to accelerate (radially) a Pre-stressed (Bent) Clubhshaft, from a slow Start Down through Impact. Per 7-19-1. See 2-N.

All Short Shots can be short, strong Strokes, eliminating all unnecessary motion by using only the one Accumulator (until greater distance is needed). But always –PUSH a lagging Clubhead through Impact.

Clubhead Throwaway here is due usually to over-acceleration. Use shorter Strokes and/or lower Thrust. The Stroke can be shortened per 10-15-B or by taking advantage of the fact that the Backstroke will stop when the Right Elbow becomes fully bent.

LoL... Thanks Bucket

Just clean fun debating, kinda like when you get out of the shower the average person dry's off the left side first but someone might find a reason to argue that its powered by the right hand push of the towel :-) I'm here to learn and pushing my point a little is in good fun of the debate to help bring people to there book and make learning fun..

BurleyGolf-

You can push with a bent right wrist. The right forearm makes a piston like motion.

I feel like I am using a 'palm heel strike' motion with my hitter procedure. Here's a video explaining the palm heel strike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRNxB6PFeak

What I basically do is feel like I am palm heel striking into my left thumb. And I push into that thumb, the pressure on that thumb increases. I feel like I want maximum pressure at impact. All of which can be done by pushing and pushing with a bent right wrist.




3JACK

Hitting 101
 

Hitting cannot be mistaken for the lawnmower cranking, "One Plane" version, of the Right Arm motion. This linear drive seems to dismiss the "Roll" of the #3 Accumulator.

In 4-D-0, when Homer talks about Simultaneous versus Sequenced Releases, he starts by explaining that it's the Release of Accumulators #2 and #3. In 7-3, the Bending and Straightening of the Right Elbow Cocks and Un-cocks the Left Wrist. In 6-B-1-0, the straightening Right Elbow powers, guides, and regulates the #3 Accumulator Motion.

The Hitter Uncocks and "Rolls".

I like that... MHS... Palm to ball with bent right wrist, that is what I was saying above. Increase the bend and sustain the line of compression.

bg-

palm to the visual equivalent for me!

When I am hitting (and I bounce around right now), I almost think having the right wrist and palm being perpendicular to the crossline angle of approach. If I try to think freezing the wrist, keeping it frozen through the hit, then its a poor strike. If I think relaxed but get it perpendicular to that diagonal angle of approach I hit it good. If I trust my visual equivalent, and thats not easy, you feel like its going to go right, then I hit it great.