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ruthin 05-29-2009 09:16 AM

Pivot on short pitches <50 yrds
 
What would be considered a good pivot action for short shots from 50yrds and in?
My chipping has much improved but feel in this inbetween zone that I am unsure how to move my body.

What would be a LBG standard stock pitch shot in this area?

O.B.Left 05-29-2009 09:37 AM

Check out Acquired Motion in the various videos, threads etc. Little chips are Basic Motion using one Power Accumulator only. Acquired Motion is for slightly longer shots, so named because you acquire more Power Accumulators, The Pivot for instance.

Its a fantastic system that working on really sharpens your short game and spreads to your longer shots as well. The Alignments being the same from chips to drives. The Alignment Golf DVD covers it all in depth and putting too.

ruthin 05-29-2009 09:52 AM

Thanks O.B....

bmctigue 05-29-2009 10:24 AM

My $.02 on this question, a surprising amount of pivot. Lynn and I worked on this in my lesson last week, and granted I wasn't using much lower body to begin with, but even on short acquired motion shots of the distance you describe, he stood behind me and rotated my hips to the right much more than I would have thought for that short of shots. Once I started doing it the results were much better overall. Also, if you have the Brian Gay fundamentals video, there is a section where Brian is hitting little A.M. chips and is finishing with his belt buckle at the target, IE pretty full pivot. They discuss the use of the pivot in that shot as well.

Yoda 05-29-2009 11:39 AM

Video Worth Several Thousand Words
 
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Originally Posted by ruthin (Post 64465)

What would be considered a good pivot action for short shots from 50yrds and in?
My chipping has much improved but feel in this inbetween zone that I am unsure how to move my body.

What would be a LBG standard stock pitch shot in this area?

Ruthin,

Check my action in this free video: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...urriculum.html.

:golfcart2:

ruthin 05-29-2009 01:52 PM

Many thanks Yoda,

Have ordered alignment golf today also :salut:

Yoda 05-29-2009 08:40 PM

Customer Service
 
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Originally Posted by ruthin (Post 64478)

Many thanks Yoda,

Have ordered Alignment Golf today also :salut:

Thank you, ruthin!

:salut:

O.B.Left 05-29-2009 10:13 PM

Man, that video is so what its all about.

Yoda 05-29-2009 10:37 PM

Alignments Are Forever
 
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 64496)

Man, that video is so what its all about.

O.B.,

Given your "Two Thumbs Up", I just watched the video again myself.

:)

Three years intervene since that lesson -- and 27 years behind that -- yet every word and demonstration stands.

Interestingly, the only reason the clip made its way to LBG viewers is because the cameraman (and benefactor) -- Collin's Dad, aka "Daddy Cal" -- accidentally left this last tape in my camera (after his own battery had died) prior to his and Collin's return to St. Louis, Missouri. He subsequently gave me permission to use it here.

The rest of the two days resides with him.

Hmmm . . .

;)

O.B.Left 05-30-2009 10:39 AM

Colin's before and after would be a nice comparison. As would Brian Gay's , John Reigger's etc etc etc etc .......etc.... What about a young Lynn Blake with knee drive and a sore back to "boot" .........etc etc.......... Ill show mine, if anyone wants to show theirs.

Stuts 06-15-2009 09:30 AM

Mr. Yoda,
Could you pleas commit on how and when to use your right knee in the down swing for short or full shotrs. Thanks.

Yoda 06-15-2009 11:45 PM

Hip Motion Begets Knee Motion
 
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Originally Posted by Stuts (Post 65104)

Mr. Yoda,
Could you pleas commit on how and when to use your right knee in the down swing for short or full shotrs. Thanks.

Stuts,

Understand that both the Left and Right Knees move to support the Hip Turn and the resultant Weight Shift (if any). Not vice versa.

Substituting Knee Motion for what is properly a Hip Motion is a common error, one that should be avoided by those who would build their most effective, efficient Golf Stroke. Watch for what I call "happy" knees that move vigorously in both the Backstroke and Downstroke, but do little to cause the proper Hip Turn and Action. Also, "saggy baggy" knees (in either direction) that tend to move the Head (a Sway or Bob or both) and cause an Uncentered Arc.

Personally, I prefer and teach Right Anchor Knee Action (10-16-C), but understand (and have no problem with) Standard (10-16-A) and Double Anchor (10-16-D) Knee Action.

The Feet (Component #17) also play an important part in the Foot-Knee-Hip-Shoulder interaction and should be given close attention, even -- and perhaps especially -- in the short pitches.

:salut:

O.B.Left 06-16-2009 12:35 AM

Yoda post #7,777. That has to be good luck for the coming week or so. Go Brian.

The motion he alludes to needs not luck however, Im chipping with a little left, right, left, right deal in the feet and loving it. Pitter patter. No more pivot freeze and a running out of right arm.

I got the Hup two, three, four occupation GI blues. Its a motion alright, especially as you get close to the green, cause thats where you tend to freeze your pivot.

Stuts 06-16-2009 11:33 AM

Dear Yoda & OB
In the chipping/pitching motion should the weight transfer finsih on the left heal. I notice that at the finish my weight is towards my toes. What did I do wrong? Thank you.

O.B.Left 06-16-2009 10:44 PM

Your weight should be on your heals somewhat at address. To the degree that you can lift your toes slightly. For pivot strokes it should finish on your left heal. To have the weight move onto your toes is to have the Pivot Center (the head say) and the left shoulder (the center of the radius, the left arm and club) move forward too..........not a good thing. You will shank it or heal it unless you are shortening your radius (left arm bend or throwaway).

So you could be:

1. Starting with your weight towards the toes, or
2. Starting with your weight towards the heals, but shortening your radius which necessitates a move towards the toes.
3. Approaching shanks with a faulty pivot that has the center of gravity moving towards the toes with the radius held constant (fully extended via extensor action).


What I do is try to feel the stretch of Extensor Action at the center ,or left shoulder, the radius thereby extended to the degree the left hand is level and also feel the weight on the heals which keeps the left shoulder from moving forward. Its like two forces upon the left shoulder, one extending the left arm and club, the other preventing it from moving forward towards the ball.

In regard to the role of the feet, as in walking its heal , toe , heal , toe. So a small little pivot will still see a small but important move of the weight to the heal of the left foot and towards the toe of the right foot at Finish. Vice versa at Top. Most people just freeze their pivots up and run out of right arm as the lack of body participation over taxes the role of the arms. With the right shoulder not moving down plane , the right arm runs out of bend and the shot is lost. Make contact with the ball with a bent rigth arm and straighten them both out a Follow Through. The position of both arms straight varies with the length of the shot and will dictate the degree to which the right shoulder must move downplane on the downswing.

Stuts 06-17-2009 09:27 AM

O.B. Left
Thanks for your time & reply. I will practice my left shoulder extensor action and pivot and let you know the results. Thanks again.


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