Golf Magazine, March 2009
 

The front page of Golf Magazine features: Build a SWING you
can TRUST by Masters Champion Trevor Immelman.

HOW TO BUILD TRUST IN YOUR TOP POSITON:
Point the toe down and cup your left wrist.

HOW TO BUILD TRUST IN YOUR IMPACT:
TRUST THIS: My toe-down position at the top means
I have to really go after it at the bottom. This may sound like
a compensation move, but it's actuall the easiest way to square
the face and swing with speed. I like to feel the clubhead
passing may hands through impact, not may hands trying to
hold the face square.

My be "overtaking" but pictures shows left wrist bent and right
wrist flat. Note: this is past impact on a big picture but
but on a small picthure, Trevor show the same thing and says
"This is the right way to swing through impact and square up
the clubface". Then a small picture, showing a bent right wrist
and a flat left wrist, Trevor said "Holding the club is both
unathletic and a serious power sap."

Maybe I am missing something and may have taken something out of text, but the above just doesn't seem right. I know that Hogan
cupped the left wrist, at the top on his secret move, but he
did not cave in at the bottom.

Puck release ... like Nick Bradley advocates....It is hard to imagine how it does not lead to inconsistent clubface alignment unless you practice hard....and even then...

Hogan did not do it...

But then maybe he was not as dynamic or athletic as Trev aims to be....:laughing9 :rolleyes:

Cupping of the left wrist (depends on grip I know) tends to allow the clubface to remain turned to the plane and on plane in early start down...IMO. the wrist is subservient to the requirements of the 3 components of the club (sweetspot/face and shaft/sweetspot plane)... may be going off topic...sorry. PM if anyone wants to discuss last paragraph.

Trevor may think he does this, but he doesn't, or he wouldn't be on Tour. Feel vs Real re: the release.

feel vs real deal here chaps

What AIN'T Happ'nin
 

Could someone please post these posed -- and sad -- 'Through Impact' photos? I'd like to comment. Thanks.

:salut:

I showed them to YodasLuke the day I received the magazine and told him to "put a supply in the clubhouse." Why? They constitute nothing less than a "Teacher's Annuity". In fact, they are the 'Before' picture in Luke's recent Amazing Changes sequences in Post #15 here: http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...1470#post61470.

If this truly is what Trevor Immelman is working on, then he is in big trouble. You will not hear from him again until this conception -- no doubt 'learned' -- changes. As I look at his stats, it is obvious that he has a short game problem -- where the Action is contained and the conscious and subconscious minds have the opportunity to meet head-on -- not a long game problem (where Total Motion childhood 'Feels' rule the day).

I'd like 15 minutes with him in the short game area, using his true long game alignments through Impact, and let's see what happens.

I agree, I could not believe my eyes when reading this. It's nothing more than trying to time club head throw-away!

Bad pics
 

I saw those pics and my jaw dropped. I think everyone on this site gets that these are bad pics and probably a feel vs. real issue....I just feel sorry for the poor chaps out there trying to make this happen. Reminds me of the "stack and tilt" pictures which looked like reverse pivot in the magazine photos.

Hope this link works.

ob

http://www.golf.com/golf/gallery/art...271-10,00.html

Thanks Trevor for increasing our lesson business by needing to take folks back to square one! :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9

Kevin

Wow....
 

Sadly, I would've probably been one of the suckers that tried this out a few months ago. I used to love going through golf magazines and trying out different tips and such. It's frightening to me now to see how much bad info is really out there. Thanks for taking the blind fold off yoda and LBG gand.

Wow....
 

Sadly, I would've probably been one of the suckers that tried this out a few months ago. I used to love going through golf magazines and trying out different tips and such. It's frightening to me now to see how much bad info is really out there. Thanks for taking the blind fold off yoda and LBG gang.

Golf mags are good for finding out golf news and equipment reviews...that's about it!

and seeing little other than adverts.

Wow they are very clear pictures of bad info, lol

Towards the Front Line
 

Thanks, O.B.

Bambam, please put this photo in a 'direct post' format for me. Thanks.

:salut:

see above post

Fuggeddabouddit!
 

Thanks, Ben!

I would never have believed I would see a major champion demonstrate these 'Hacker' alignments as fundamentally correct. Even if posed -- especially if posed -- they are an abomination. The gap between 'Feel' and 'Real' has never been more wide. Nor the gap between competent and huckster instruction.

For the record, I don't blame Trevor. The mea culpa lies elsewhere.

With his instructor(s), whoever he (or she or they) may be . . .

And with the editors of Golf Magazine.

He himself lives on Lag Pressure and its Stressed Clubshaft -- the exact opposite of what he is demonstrating -- and has allowed others to interpret the result.

I will explain the true relationships in my next post.

:salut:

I would think the problem would be students pointing out this out to teachers like yourself and then explaining the flaws in Trevor's article and the student trusting what you're saying because Immelman is a Master's champ and gets a lot of rave reviews about his swing.

People often ask why is golf so hard. This is unfortunately a big reason for it.



3JACK

Foundation Stone
 

Makin' a list and checkin' it twice
 

Golf Magazine is back on my Christmas list. With pictures like those, they're adding to the everlasting supply of hackers.

Thank you, Golf Magazine, for your support. All the teachers in America applaud you. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Feel is not Real
 

Golf Digest (Jul '08 edition) has some very good swing sequence pictures of Trevor Immelman. Frame # 6 shows 3 views at impact. FLW and BRW Right forearm on plane and pointing at the plane line.

This is the swing that has earned Immelman's swing much praise and is likely the swing with which he won the Masters. While Trevor may feel he is emulating the alignments he speaks of in the March '09 Golf Magazine article, in actuallity he is not.

Be careful what you ask a great player to do. He might just do it. If Mr. Immelman continues to work on poor impact alignments, he may just acheive them and play his way into the broadcast booth with another major champion.

Feel is not Real. Feel can also change from day to day or moment to moment. Alignments are always the same. Develop feel from mechanics. Beware what great players tell you what they are doing. They are tremendous athletes and can make almost anything work, at least for awhile.

Be Right . . . Or Else
 

You're hittin' home here, Sligo. Great stuff.

As a credentialed PGA TOUR Instructor, I can tell you that I am very aware of the responsibility. These guys are are good, and they can do anything you tell them to do.

God help the Instructor -- long term -- who tells them wrong.

:salut:

More please
 

[/As I look at his stats, it is obvious that he has a short game problem -- where the Action is contained and the conscious and subconscious minds have the opportunity to meet head-on -- not a long game problem (where Total Motion childhood 'Feels' rule the day).

Yoda, can you expand on this? And any idea on how to prevent the head-on between the subconscious and conscious minds in the short game? I too would love 15 minutes (and many more) with you on the short game. :pray:

South African Kind of Day
 

Lynn should get an up-close view of Trevor's swing today. Looks like Brian is paired with Immelman and Goosen. Tiger is in the group in front of them, so should be a fun day at Bay Hill for Lynn!