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KevCarter 12-28-2008 12:02 PM

Flying Wedges - Extensor Action
 
Whenever Extensor action is explained, just like on the Alignment Golf DVDs, it is mentioned that the extensor action is not on the plane, but rather under the plane. I see that, and believe I understand it visually.

My question is, what is the significance of the extensor action happening under the plane rather than on the plane as it relates to the golf swing?

Thank you,
Kevin

Thom 12-28-2008 02:00 PM

my view
 
Because the left arm, that are being stretched by the right arm, is not on the sving plane, but rather pointing inside the planeline, the direction of the extensor action is also inside or under the plane.

I've had issues with hoselrockets when my extensor action was too much in the direction of the planeline&B:

Scottgas2 12-28-2008 02:06 PM

How can extensor action be under the plane line at address?
The right forearm is on plane. If you extend it, it will either go off plane or be extended on plane.

KevCarter 12-28-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 59622)
How can extensor action be under the plane line at address?
The right forearm is on plane. If you extend it, it will either go off plane or be extended on plane.

Scott,

I'm not sure. I am just going by the video and the book. In Mr. Kelley's words:

6-B-1-D Extensor Action
Except with Zero Accumulator #3, the "stretch" direction is always below plane.

Kevin

Thom 12-28-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 59622)
How can extensor action be under the plane line at address?
The right forearm is on plane. If you extend it, it will either go off plane or be extended on plane.

It wont. Look at Brian Gay at address in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwAZ2E1YzM

Right forearm on-plane, the extensor action is toward the ground in the direction the left arm is pointing. If you have V1 you can draw the lines yourself.

Dariusz J. 12-28-2008 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thom (Post 59627)
It wont. Look at Brian Gay at address in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwAZ2E1YzM

Right forearm on-plane, the extensor action is toward the ground in the direction the left arm is pointing. If you have V1 you can draw the lines yourself.


Sorry for an off-topic remark, but I've never seen such a strange rear knee/rear foot action at impact - I believe it can be a risk for an injury for a joint or two...better if I am a bad prophet.

Cheers

KevCarter 12-28-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dariusz J. (Post 59631)
Sorry for an off-topic remark, but I've never seen such a strange rear knee/rear foot action at impact - I believe it can be a risk for an injury for a joint or two...better if I am a bad prophet.

Cheers

It looks as though he is working at trying to keep it down past low point. I agree, it looks a little too contrived, unfortunately he can give me 4 a side with no worries. :laughing9

Kevin

Amen Corner 12-28-2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 59622)
How can extensor action be under the plane line at address?
The right forearm is on plane. If you extend it, it will either go off plane or be extended on plane.

Not answering Kevīs initial question.

But take a look at this from the gallery

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...els_wedges.wmv

Perhaps helps.

KevCarter 12-28-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 59633)
Not answering Kevīs initial question.

But take a look at this from the gallery

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...els_wedges.wmv

Perhaps helps.

Thank you Amen Corner. I can't watch that enough times, great stuff!

I think I should rephrase my question as perhaps it is what it is...

Believe it or not, I have been a Professional for 30+ years, and Extensor action is completely new to me. Oh well, better late than never. I just want to make sure I incorporate it correctly to firm up my structure.

Can Extensor Action be applied incorrectly in a manner that would be detrimental to the swing?

Thanks guys,
Kevin

Amen Corner 12-28-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 59634)
Thank you Amen Corner. I can't watch that enough times, great stuff!

I think I should rephrase my question as perhaps it is what it is...

Believe it or not, I have been a Professional for 30+ years, and Extensor action is completely new to me. Oh well, better late than never. I just want to make sure I incorporate it correctly to firm up my structure.

Can Extensor Action be applied incorrectly in a manner that would be detrimental to the swing?

Thanks guys,
Kevin

Kevin,

I did a search on extensor action with posts made by Yoda. Start with the last page, you will find posts from the archives. I did not have time to go through all, past bedtime over here...:eyes:

KevCarter 12-28-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 59636)
Kevin,

I did a search on extensor action with posts made by Yoda. Start with the last page, you will find posts from the archives. I did not have time to go through all, past bedtime over here...:eyes:

Thanks again,
Kevin

plgolfer 12-28-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 59620)
Whenever Extensor action is explained, just like on the Alignment Golf DVDs, it is mentioned that the extensor action is not on the plane, but rather under the plane. I see that, and believe I understand it visually.

My question is, what is the significance of the extensor action happening under the plane rather than on the plane as it relates to the golf swing?

Thank you,
Kevin

If you apply EA on plane of clubshaft at address, you will unintentionally zero out acc. 3 on your backswing???

powerdraw 12-29-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by plgolfer (Post 59646)
If you apply EA on plane of clubshaft at address, you will unintentionally zero out acc. 3 on your backswing???



NO. you zero out with having the shaft in the V (palm) of the left hand, therefore having the left arm and shaft in line.

EA is applied underplane when there is an non-zero accumulator 3 condition. it is a pull (tug) in the direction your left arm is pointing at setup. hope this helps, cheers.

O.B.Left 01-04-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 59634)
Can Extensor Action be applied incorrectly in a manner that would be detrimental to the swing?

Thanks guys,
Kevin



Bobby Jones said something like "there is no virtue that cant be over exaggerated".

OB

KevCarter 01-04-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 59854)
Bobby Jones said something like "there is no virtue that cant be over exaggerated".

OB

Thank You OB Left. I appreciate the help.

Kevin

HMSmai 01-07-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 59634)
Can Extensor Action be applied incorrectly in a manner that would be detrimental to the swing?

Thanks guys,
Kevin

Yes. Could lead to incompatible loading (i.e. drive loading) if overdone.

KevCarter 01-07-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HMSmai (Post 59974)
Yes. Could lead to incompatible loading (i.e. drive loading) if overdone.

I can feel how that could happen. Thanks for the help HMSmai!

Kevin

O.B.Left 01-12-2009 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 59620)
Whenever Extensor action is explained, just like on the Alignment Golf DVDs, it is mentioned that the extensor action is not on the plane, but rather under the plane. I see that, and believe I understand it visually.

My question is, what is the significance of the extensor action happening under the plane rather than on the plane as it relates to the golf swing?

Thank you,
Kevin

With the club gripped under the heal pad of the left hand, the left arm is not on plane. Therefore EA which is inline with the left arm, is not on plane. Its that simple.

Stick with it. I think it is the procedure that brings to life or allows much of what is discussed around here. The hands as clamps, the right elbow bend cocking the left wrist, the on plane move of the right shoulder etc etc .

OB

KevCarter 01-12-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 60049)
With the club gripped under the heal pad of the left hand, the left arm is not on plane. Therefore EA which is inline with the left arm, is not on plane. Its that simple.

Stick with it. I think it is the procedure that brings to life or allows much of what is discussed around here. The hands as clamps, the right elbow bend cocking the left wrist, the on plane move of the right shoulder etc etc .

OB

I appreciate the help OB. So much to learn!

:golf:

Thank You,
Kevin


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