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Jimma 08-06-2008 04:37 PM

Should we use Tom Tomsello swing video?
 
Hi Yoda,

I really enjoyed Tomasello simple swing
mechanics in his free videos section here...

But I read in another post where you advocated
that the pivot starts the start down motion not
the arms down as Tom suggests......


Which is correct???


thanks,

Jim

Delaware Golf 08-07-2008 12:17 PM

Tommy Tomasello GSED
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimma (Post 55024)
Hi Yoda,

I really enjoyed Tomasello simple swing
mechanics in his free videos section here...

But I read in another post where you advocated
that the pivot starts the start down motion not
the arms down as Tom suggests......


Which is correct???


thanks,

Jim

Tommy taught section 10-20 as ways to start the downswing.....according to Tomasello the swinging stroke pattern could use any one of the triggers for the downswing....

10-20-B Right Arm Trigger....muscles of the right forearm
10-20-C Right Shoulder Trigger
10-20-D Muscles of both Forearms
10-20-E Wrist Throw - starting the club down per the left wrist.

From my instruction with Tommy....he only recommended 10-20-A with putting and/or chip shots.

I use Tommy's instruction exclusively and it works. You'll learn great things from both Tom Tomasello and Lynn Blake, both world class instructors.

DG

Jimma 08-07-2008 01:09 PM

It does work!...
 
Thanks DG...

I tried Tommy's swinging method and it
hits ball striaght and far....and fits in with what we learn here...
Hey if it works why not!

* What is the trigger for 10-20-A?


Jimma

KAPLOWD 08-08-2008 09:16 AM

Can you use more then one trigger?

Andy R 08-12-2008 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimma (Post 55024)
Hi Yoda,

I really enjoyed Tomasello simple swing
mechanics in his free videos section here...

But I read in another post where you advocated
that the pivot starts the start down motion not
the arms down as Tom suggests......


Which is correct???



thanks,

Jim

Hey Jim,

I thought you might be interested in what Tomasello said in his Chapter 9 video Hitting_Swinging.wmv:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomasello
One of the single most important things I'd like to impress upon you here, is that if your hands are below shoulder level, the left hip starts to pull instantly as you uncock the golfclub - INSTANTLY - you must learn to do this together.

However if your hands are above shoulder level, you must connect the upper (right) arm (to the chest) first, before you start to activate the hip.


Delaware Golf 08-12-2008 09:05 PM

Responding Left Hip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy R (Post 55141)
Hey Jim,

I thought you might be interested in what Tomasello said in his Chapter 9 video Hitting_Swinging.wmv:

I would listen closely to Tommy on those videos.....he says the left hip will respond to the action of the arms....especially the right forearm....Magic of the Right Forearm on the downswing. As Tommy told me personally, the right forearm is in complete control for both hitting and swinging.

DG

Andy R 08-13-2008 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 55143)
I would listen closely to Tommy on those videos.....he says the left hip will respond to the action of the arms....

At about 7 minutes 15 seconds into the Chapter 2 Arms.wmv video Tomasello explains exactly that. :)

Delaware Golf 08-15-2008 06:26 PM

Letter #2 Video for more INFO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy R (Post 55147)
At about 7 minutes 15 seconds into the Chapter 2 Arms.wmv video Tomasello explains exactly that. :)

In the Letter Series number 2 video, I believe you'll find more comments from Tommy regarding the body reacting to the arms.

DG

Jimma 08-15-2008 11:51 PM

Thanks Y'all!....
 
I like the simpilicity of Tommy Tomasello!


Jimmy

DennisG 09-07-2008 07:49 PM

Me too! Just what I needed to dial out my overactive lower body... He seems like such a nice fellow too...

Dennis

Andy R 09-07-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisG (Post 55727)
Me too! Just what I needed to dial out my overactive lower body... He seems like such a nice fellow too...

Dennis

He clearly was a positive force, brimming over with good will and sincere enthusiasm for the game. Yoda seems cut from the same cloth. No wonder they were such good friends.

Augusta Golf 11-05-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimma (Post 55024)
Hi Yoda,

I really enjoyed Tomasello simple swing
mechanics in his free videos section here...

But I read in another post where you advocated
that the pivot starts the start down motion not
the arms down as Tom suggests......


Which is correct???


thanks,

Jim

I'm a wee bit stuck here too. He seems to say the right hip stays back and the wrists uncock down and out. If the right hip stays back then this seems to be a delay of centrifugal force making this a non-swinging procedure. Then we look at 2-P Centrfigual Force alone Uncocks the Swinger's Wrist's, but Right Arm Thrust during Release is the Hitter's procedure. My understanding of Hitting is a simultaneous uncocking and rolling......This whole deal has me in the fog with no lights on :eyes:

Delaware Golf 11-06-2008 09:42 PM

At Full Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Augusta Golf (Post 57388)
I'm a wee bit stuck here too. He seems to say the right hip stays back and the wrists uncock down and out. If the right hip stays back then this seems to be a delay of centrifugal force making this a non-swinging procedure. Then we look at 2-P Centrfigual Force alone Uncocks the Swinger's Wrist's, but Right Arm Thrust during Release is the Hitter's procedure. My understanding of Hitting is a simultaneous uncocking and rolling......This whole deal has me in the fog with no lights on :eyes:

Augusta...

When you see Tommy swing at full speed do you see a delayed right hip. I would go back and watch the whole "Chapter" series....I have been watching Tommy's "Chapter" series video for approximately 15 years...and I watched it a few hundred times before I could say I haven't learned anything new from this video. For the LBG audience, it's 9 seperate videos. BTW, Tommy gave me the full un-edited video as I left his Myrtle Beach studio on Friday October 22nd 1993. I'm really glad it's had a positive impact on the G.O.L.F community.

With Tommy's videos ya got to seperate drill recommendations from the final product...of all the videos I've seen of Tommy....he was always coming up with a drill to help the golfer feel and see the correct alignment and/or motion. Tommy was the drill master.

DG

Augusta Golf 11-06-2008 10:57 PM

I'm not saying anything negative about the man or method, just saying it caused some confusion based on one viewing.


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