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purehitter 07-27-2008 09:49 AM

Hitting with a Shoulder Turn Takeaway
 
You use a shoulder turn takeaway with strong single action grip and the right elbow action of hitting. (bending and unbending)

Use single wrist action only. (left wrist cocking only)

Standard pivot.

The elbow and turned shoulder plane are used with a single or double shift.

Right arm thrust is more down with the double shift and the feel for it takes some time getting use to it.

I find the single shift a little easier but both will work.

Adjusting the Sweet Spot Balance at impact fix. (hinge action)

I will explain what I am talking about.

Changing the balance of the sweet spot has different effects on the club face at impact automatically if you let the club work like a club.

If you balance a golf club on you right shoulder you will see how the toe of the club hangs down. If you look at the face angle, the club face is closed.

This is the in balance position of the sweet spot.

Now to change the sweet spot balance at impact you move the sweet spot balance at impact fix from in balance to what I call heavy left or more closed.

This will set the balance for more of a draw. Move it to what I call heavy right or more open. This will set the balance for more of a fade.

Using the sweet spot balance allows the club to work like a club without a manipulation of the hands.

Make adjustments to the target line, club face at impact fix (Sweet Spot Balance) and ball position for for the desired shot.

Hitting with a shoulder turn takeaway is very easy to learn and worth the time to give it a try.

finster869 07-30-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 54654)
You use a shoulder turn takeaway with strong single action grip and the right elbow action of hitting. (bending and unbending)

Use single wrist action only. (left wrist cocking only)

Standard pivot.

The elbow and turned shoulder plane are used with a single or double shift.

Right arm thrust is more down with the double shift and the feel for it takes some time getting use to it.

I find the single shift a little easier but both will work.

Adjusting the Sweet Spot Balance at impact fix. (hinge action)

I will explain what I am talking about.

Changing the balance of the sweet spot has different effects on the club face at impact automatically if you let the club work like a club.

If you balance a golf club on you right shoulder you will see how the toe of the club hangs down. If you look at the face angle, the club face is closed.

This is the in balance position of the sweet spot.

Now to change the sweet spot balance at impact you move the sweet spot balance at impact fix from in balance to what I call heavy left or more closed.

This will set the balance for more of a draw. Move it to what I call heavy right or more open. This will set the balance for more of a fade.

Using the sweet spot balance allows the club to work like a club without a manipulation of the hands.

Make adjustments to the target line, club face at impact fix (Sweet Spot Balance) and ball position for for the desired shot.

Hitting with a shoulder turn takeaway is very easy to learn and worth the time to give it a try.


This pattern seems very similar to the stack and tilt pattern. They advocate a shoulder turn takeaway in which you keep both arms connected to the body (#4 pressure point and right side equivalent). They suggest hands plane to elbow plane [but with longer clubs elbow to turned shoulder is an option].

purehitter 07-30-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by finster869 (Post 54786)
This pattern seems very similar to the stack and tilt pattern. They advocate a shoulder turn takeaway in which you keep both arms connected to the body (#4 pressure point and right side equivalent). They suggest hands plane to elbow plane [but with longer clubs elbow to turned shoulder is an option].

I never looked at it that way but I can see similar components.

purehitter 07-31-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 54799)
I never looked at it that way but I can see similar components.

Here is a video of an on plane shoulder turn takeaway back swing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eustrr_Q1zg

6bmike 07-31-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 54842)
Here is a video of an on plane shoulder turn takeaway back swing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eustrr_Q1zg

Honestly- Isn't this position golf. This is not the RFT, 7-3 or Stack and Tilt.

purehitter 07-31-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 54844)
Honestly- Isn't this position golf. This is not the RFT, 7-3 or Stack and Tilt.

The thread is hitting with a shoulder turn takeaway not hitting with a right forearm takeaway. It is on plane golf, verifying alignments. It is an easy way to see the plane line as you practice the motion. You match the plane line with the bars on the PAP. You learn to see lines as you make a continuous motion. Also the video teaches an on plane shoulder turn takeaway in 5 minutes. There is no guessing. You know when you are on or off plane. A shoulder turn takeaway for most golfers is not easy to learn and is inside and off plane most of the time. What references do you use when you practice your back swing to see if it is on plane?

6bmike 07-31-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 54851)
What references do you use when you practice your back swing to see if it is on plane?

I use a rft with extension action. I'm there each time.

strav 07-31-2008 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 54852)
I use a rft with extension action. I'm there each time.

Yes, but how do you verify to someone else that you are correct and do your alignments match the shoulder turn takeaway's if you were to use that? If not how do they differ?

Mike O 08-01-2008 02:19 AM

Short cuts can easily turn out to be the longest route
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 54799)
I never looked at it that way but I can see similar components.

To post a video on the forum- no big deal. To post a video - describing how to use your product :naughty: - well either you get prior OK from Lynn Blake or you're continuing to push the envelope in regards to forum policy. I don't know which one you fall on- but I could guess. That's my take- I'm certainly not talking for Lynn Blake.

purehitter 08-01-2008 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 54865)
To post a video on the forum- no big deal. To post a video - describing how to use your product :naughty: - well either you get prior OK from Lynn Blake or your continuing to push the envelope in regards to forum policy. I don't know which one you fall on- but I could guess. That's my take- I'm certainly not talking for Lynn Blake.

Since I only teach with some form of swing trainer the instruction videos are going to have one of more in the videos. I am not saying in the video to buy the trainers and that you need them to learn the golf swing but only giving my take on golf instruction. Many of the instruction videos I will post you can practice with a club, dowel or tennis racket as well.

6bmike 08-01-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strav (Post 54857)
Yes, but how do you verify to someone else that you are correct and do your alignments match the shoulder turn takeaway's if you were to use that? If not how do they differ?

I don't use my shoulder or pivot to take the club back. A RFT closely matches the geometric requirement of the circle of the stroke. NO wide to short compensation. Extensor Action glues not only my Flying Wedges but also my primary lever of the left arm. Little to misaligned when the pivot doesn't take the club back. I feel is if there is a string attached at low point that goes thu the inside quad of the ball. I pull this string to the Top or End of my stroke and then thrust it back on the down stroke. Im Aligned. Not perfect-but damn good.

Scottgas2 08-01-2008 11:54 PM

Eh Mike?
 
Low point is in front of the ball mostly. A string from low point through any part of the ball is going to extend back at a very shallow angle with the ground. How is it connected with your takeaway?

6bmike 08-02-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 54897)
Low point is in front of the ball mostly. A string from low point through any part of the ball is going to extend back at a very shallow angle with the ground. How is it connected with your takeaway?


Shallow?

It is a visual- my training aid of the Three-Dimensional Direction of my Thrust -- Downward, Outward and Forward- my angle of attack defining the =Delivery Path of the Hands, connected to pp#3. Why do you think it must be shallow? Hardly with a RFT- which is my take-away.

purehitter 10-14-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 54923)
Shallow?

It is a visual- my training aid of the Three-Dimensional Direction of my Thrust -- Downward, Outward and Forward- my angle of attack defining the =Delivery Path of the Hands, connected to pp#3. Why do you think it must be shallow? Hardly with a RFT- which is my take-away.

Tonights, FREE Golf Academy Live Show at 10:00 PM EST, I will cover the shoulder turn and right forearm take away. I will demo the Pro-Align with the Pure Swing 3-D Laser Swing Trainer. I also have some new practice exercises to help you with a perfect on plane back swing.

Go to www.golfacademylive.com and submit a query for a free invite for tonights show. Please do it before 9:00 PM EST today so you will be sure to see the show.

See You There,
John W Rohan-Weaver

okie 10-14-2008 06:04 PM

Huh?
 
Yellow book...not yellow pages..dude!

purehitter 10-14-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by okie (Post 56598)
Yellow book...not yellow pages..dude!

okie,

Go to:

https://golfacademylive.megameeting.com

SIGN ON AS A GUEST.

TYPE IN
Meeting Name: hammerswing

AND YOUR NAME.

It is the yellow book.

okie 10-14-2008 08:53 PM

Everything is Otay
 
I'm just messing with ya Pure! I should have used a smiley face! I know that you are a legit...just poking fun at the advertisement. :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9

Mike O 10-14-2008 10:40 PM

Websites
 
Bucket and I will have a new website up in a few days - our first product "Ring Strings" is bound to be a big big success. I've already mentioned it in the Snap Release Thread. Hang in there and we'll get the website address up soon. Besides the "Ring Strings" we are selling a DVD that shows you the many ways you can use the "Ring Strings" - normally the DVD is an additional $29.95 but order both now and get $10 off your next order. Please PM Bucket for further information.

Yoda 10-15-2008 09:20 AM

Secret Service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 56608)

Bucket and I will have a new website up in a few days - our first product "Ring Strings" is bound to be a big big success.

While I am loathe to interfere with free commerce and aggressive self-promotion on our site -- :rolleyes: :laughing9 -- I am concerned about the exposed nature (easy, Bucket! ) of the ring string. Cart boys will be cart boys, and 'ring-snatchers' could be lurking around tee and green! Plus, if you had seen those black-headed squirrels popping up everywhere at Cuscowilla, you'd know those guys can't be trusted either.

Therefore, will you also be offering a line of golf bags with a special, built-in secret compartment for the ring? And how 'bout an extended line of clip-ons (velcro?) that would work well with existing bags? Hey, you guys might have something here!

:thumleft:

drewitgolf 10-15-2008 09:39 AM

Gathering nuts!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 56623)
Plus, if you had seen those black-headed squirrels popping up everywhere at Cuscowilla, you'd know those guys can't be trusted either.


Those were some mean looking squirrels. Not easily scared off.

GPStyles 10-15-2008 09:42 AM

A bag with a special compartment sounds like a top idea!

No way do I want my ring violated! :naughty: :laughing9 [-(

Yoda 10-15-2008 11:29 AM

Cuscowilla Tree-some
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 56625)

Those were some mean looking squirrels. Not easily scared off.

"Scared off"? Gimme a break! Three of'em signed up for next week's Member-Guest!

:headbang:


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