Lead hand grip???
 

Question for Yoda or YodasLuke. I definitely trying to develop hitter stroke, because of no flexability. (usually lose it when one becomes shall we say 'wisdom overcomes youth'.) I realize the lead thumb should be aft of the shaft and the trail hand facing the target pressing on the lead thumb. However, the question is about the lead hand. Should the back of the lead hand be facing target wise, facing the sky (top of the shaft) or somewhere in between. Please don't quote the little yellow book on me at the moment, for only the grandkids know where it might be, but so far no luck. Thank you for your time. Stan

how about it? position of the left hand

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At Impact Fix(Impact position)...the back of the "Flat Left Wrist" ideally should face down the Angle of Approach, or a little to right field. At Address, or if you set up with the hands centered, the bent left hand will point more parallel with the Base Line, or Target Line. This is with the Strong Single Action grip.

If you use a Stronger left hand grip, which some hitters do... the back of of left hand will point a little more to right field in both positions(Fix and Address).

One of the Yodas will probably chime in later.

The grip
 

I use an Impact address, which is not required for hitting but can be useful. As a result, my left wrist begins flat, level, and vertical. As my left hand hangs at my side when I'm standing vertically, my palm is not facing the seam of my pants. It looks to be facing somewhat behind me. Also, my watch would be facing somewhat to right field. This 'normal' position of the arm as it hangs is a good guide for the left hand position. With a turned left hand grip, the thumb does go to the aft side of the shaft where it will provide support, but the turned hand has it's consequences. Instead of using a turned left hand to get my thumb on the aft side of the shaft, I separate my left thumb from my hand so there's a space between them. In order for the left arm flying wedge to keep from being destroyed, a turned left hand has to cock vertically and will have to bend to do so. The #3 pressure point must be placed on the aft side of the shaft, because that's where it will return. If the location of the #3 pressure point is not precisely secured, a change in clubface angle at impact can be the result.

Lagster,
You are dead on...the FLV of the Lead Hand as well as the #3PP is facing down the Angle of Approach....NOT the Target Line....I have a copy of a letter from Bruce Hough( A close disciple of Homer) to Mac O'Grady going into detail on the Why and the How...

Would be interesting to see, this if possible.

Letter
 

Yes the letter would be great, I would like to see it.

The Left Wrist at Impact (and all the way to Follow Through) should be Vertical (i.e. perpendicular) to one of the three Basic Planes -- Horizontal, Angled or Vertical -- depending on your corresponding Hinge Action. This determines the exact direction which your Left Wrist should be facing.

If it's facing that way, then how can this be: F/L/V?

This has screwed me up for a while...

Honestly do not follow Leo.

Basic Planes??

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(in the process of typing this I *got it* ;))

(SO, I'll do a 180)

*AHEM*....

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oooooooooo! I get it!......

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Vertical to the Horizontal Plane = through Impact to Follow-Through keep Left Wrist Vertical to a hoola-hoop around your waist.

Vertical to the Angled Plane = through Impact to Follow-Through keep Left Wrist Vertical to an Inclined Plane (i.e. pane of glass resting on your shoulders- right?)....

Vertical to the Vertical Plane = through Impact to Follow-Through keep Left Wrist Vertical to a windmill's "fan."

Cool.....can't believe it has taken me a year and a bit for this "egg to hatch"...she was partway cracked open but she just split in half.

Thanks Leo. :p

Annikan Ballstriker! Don't be a tease. Come off with it! Let us SEE IT. Purty please with Q sauce on top!

Thanks Paul, the ecstacy of egg smashing is what keeps me posting. Bam! Crack! Another egg smashed. Next!

Lets really finish this off.

I like to image a flat tabletop to represent the Horizontal Plane of Horizontal Hinging.
Do this:
Have your Left Arm straight in front of you, with a Flat and Vertical Left Wrist, and your whole arm resting on a (imaginary) tabletop.
Now have move the whole of your Left Arm about a feet to the right (towards your right shoulder) without moving your body. Your Left Wrist should still Vertical to the tabletop.
Now drop the whole of your Left Arm onto the golfer's Inclined Plane, without doing anything with your Wrists.
Notice that it looks as if it's turned relative to the Plane Line. However, it is still Vertical to its associated Basic Plane (Horizontal Plane).
That's the exact alignment of your Left Wrist at Impact.

Also notice that this Vertical Left Wrist alignment looks more open/turned compared to the Hitter's Left Wrist. This is because the Hitter's Left Wrist is Vertical (perpendicular) not to the Horizontal (tabletop) Plane, but to the Inclined Plane.
But even though the Swinger's (using Horizontal Hinging) Left Wrist condition looks slightly different than the Hitter's (using Angled Hinging) Left Wrist condition, they are both Vertical! Vertical to what? :D That's right!

a picture worth a couple hundred words ...
 

annikan- in your collection of photos, do u have close up pictures of the lead hand only, and of both the lead and trail hands on the grip in the manner you described? if so could you post ... thanks

Cool, is this a fair statement? "it is NOT necessary or even advisable to position the left hand directly facing the taget. the real key is the angle of approach"??

The Door Is Slightly Open...And Facing Right
 

You've got it, Taustin!

:p ANOTHER EGG HATCHES:p :p

Does the back of the left hand face down tha angle of approach of the right forearm, or the angle of approach running from separation to low point?