Brian Gay Sequence
 

Here's a close up view...lot's to see & learn from...recognize the hinge action...enjoy:)

Right Foot Action
 

One of the aspects of this swing that is interesting to me is the action (or lack of) of the right foot...thru impact the right foot is still planted to the ground and appears to roll to the instep as the swing progress thru release and into the swivel up. Any others?:)

Right Foot and Knee -- What Really Happens
 

Contrary to popular opinion -- and many misguided methods of years past -- the Right Foot and Knee do not 'kick off' the Hip Turn. In fact, it is vice versa:

The uncoiling Left Side -- with its opposing force exerted against the ground -- pulls the Right Knee forward and the Right Foot off the ground.

The Knees support that Motion . . .

And the Feet accomodate.

:)

Right Foot
 

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Brian's right foot is flat on the ground throughout the Impact Interval. What would you say is the Weight distribution here..left foot and right foot, or Pressure distribution?

From the Master
 

Heavy left through Impact.

In fact, since our work over the past two years . . .

Brian tells me he feels he never leaves his left.

Understood.

As in years past, he still loads his right side.

Only now . . .

With a Centered and Stationary Head . . .

He doesn't Sway.

:)

Brian
 

Pretty pictures.

Yoda,

Would you agree that Brian's right leg action (fairly in-line to his stance line) allows more room for his arms and does not disrupt his hand path the way that spinning his right knee out toward the ball would?

Hip Motion . . . Not Knee Motion
 

Hennyb,

Substituting a Knee Motion for what is properly a Hip Motion -- in both directions -- is one of the biggest misconceptions in golf. In fact, the Feet and Knees accomodate the Hip Turn, and not vice versa.

'Firing the right knee' and 'driving the legs' -- Downstroke swing thoughts I practiced in my pre-TGM naivete -- are disastrous and lead to the alignment disruptions you have noted.

:salut:

Yoda,

Would you reccomend Brians motion as a model for a TGM newbie leaning toward swinging?

He just seems so efficient. If i can get my drives out there 250 yds and straight, I'd be giddy. I'd just want to be able to hit crisp irons and have decent lenght off the tee. Repeatability over monster length.

Also can you lead me to any links or vids where I can learn to work on a basic hip/ pivot action for a swinger new to TGM?

Thanks!

A Good Model
 

I would recommend Brian's motion to anyone, Swinger or Hitter.

Body Control (9-1) -- Pivot

• Stationary Head (2-0-A-1).
  
• Stable Feet (10-17-C) and Knees (10-16-C).
  
• On Plane Shoulder Turn (10-13-D)
  
• Delayed Hip Turn (10-15-B)

Clubshaft Control (1-L-A)-- Plane Line Tracing

• Right Forearm On Plane at Address.
• Right Forearm On Plane through Impact.

Clubhead Control (1-L-B) -- Lag Pressure.

• Loaded by the Pivot.
• Delivered by the Arms.
• Guided by the Hands.

Clubface Control (1-L-C) -- Flat Left Wrist and Hinge Action.

• When Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead -- Swinging -- the tendency is toward Horizontal Hinging.
• When Muscular Thrust drives the Clubhead -- Hitting -- the tendency is toward Angled Hinging.

Regarding Pivot Drills, I recommend the MacDonald Exercises #1-4 and #10-11: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=4435.

Also, selected portions of the From Mechanics to Feel videos in The Gallery:http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=509.

Finally, when available, Disc #2 -- Drills -- from the soon-to-be-released Blake/Trolio Series.

:)

Does this confirm or disprove Hogan?

Seeing Is Believing
 

Check out the Hogan downstroke photos here: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/cmps_in...age=multimedia

And . . .

You tell me!

:)

So that's a yes?

Good Practice Session
 

Today I had a good practice session....my swing has been wobbly lately...I kept in mind Yoda's checklist above and Brian's motion ( I have fortunately seen it in person) and what seems to be a minor adjustment made a big difference in the quality of my contact and the feeling of being able to HH through the ball. It was in my SETUP. First, I set the club on its natural lie (which was more upright than I had been doing) than the right forearm on the same line. This brought me closer to the ball ....I felt comfortable being more upright with my upper body & with minor knee flex & with no hunched over the ball feeling. It seemed like the rest of the swing fell into place. Can something this minor make that much difference...maybe so.....it sure seems if you start your setup incorrectly ...a chain reaction of setup issues can occur which will disrupt the entire swing.

I noted that Brian Gay has his hands higher at address (on the elbow plane) than most PGA tour players who have their hands on the hand plane. Can one cock/hinge the wrists as easily during the backswing when starting from a higher hand postion? Why do most PGA tour players hold their hands on the hand plane (extension line drawn from the butt end of the club points at the belt buckle)?

Jeff.

Brian Gay -DTL Sequence
 

Here's Brian's driver sequence from a down the line view with reference lines....this may help spur some responses.:smile:

No. The reason is the lower the hands are at address, the more cocked the wrists are, so as it relates to getting the wrists cocked in the backswing you are ahead of the starting line. The thing you have to figure out is which is more difficult to overcome. Many would argue that lower hands creates far more compensations than having to retrain your wrists. If you don't overroll as you start your backswing your right elbow bend should cock your left wrist.

HG

I'm not getting this. Is this a double shift? I thought Brian was zero shift. Why did you draw a line on the Square Shoulder Plane? I'm just confused. It's probably just me.

Thanks Yoda,

Ive been out of town all weekend. I really appreciate the check list and will try to start incorporating these things into my prcatice sessions.

You and Brian make a great team!

My virgin TGM eyes wonder if Brian uses a RFT? Can someone confirm? Thanks

Low Hands
 

These low hands guys are starting from a cocked right wrist position as well though so this means they need to get it to level somewhere in the swing before impact?. Brian starts from a level right wrist so this gets maintained throughout the swing which we know is correct. He demos this on the video with yoda.

This is yet another extra move for them to do along with getting their right forearm on plane before impact.

Lots of compensations as you state mrodock so what are the supposed adavantages of these low hands especially the real low hands guys ala Jodie Mudd etc?

Remember hearing an audio where Homer said low hands would help you get the club up quicker on the backswing.?

Does it affect the pulley size in the endless belt?

Any of the proponents of this help me here ?

No, Jodie Mudd was a "Mac Guy" and from what Mac said was important with the low hands was to move farther away from the ball rather than cocking the wrists at adress, the lower plane angle, and #3 has a shorter radius therefor there will be more bend in the left wrist especially with the stronger grip...would set up for a big pulley, but the pulley would be heavily dependent on which delivery path, and plane angle the player is swinging on

Swinging or HItting
 

I have watched many of the videos of Brian Gays swings and seeing these pictures furthers my question of whether he is in fact a swinger or a hitter, I notice that he starts with a forward press or from "impact hands" and seems to have relativly little blast off or throw out from acumulator number 4, or maybe i am just more used to seeing a very agressive lower body action like most traditonal instruction suggests is neccesary, but to me it would apear he is a hitter