A lesson for Tiger
 

I caught a bit of the match play yesterday, and it looks like Tiger is really struggling with a misunderstanding of alignments.

His misses are high right with the driver/full power.

His misses are pulled left with the shorter irons.

Both of which are caused by his high right forearm at address, and a mistaken perception that "address is impact" (per his book).

The problem with this is that if he thinks he needs to return to his address postion, he is almost certain to arrive with the right foream above plane.

From that position, he either must either:

a) completely surrender to CF (his good shots, with good Rhythm)

or

b) come in over plane when not at full power (pulled miss)

c) at full power, properly send the right shoulder down plane, but given the high right forearm address, an instant under plane block.

The solution:

A properly set right forearm flying wedge at address, with a level right wrist.

An understanding that address and impact are not the same and that the right shoulder must go down plane (which he did very well in 2000).


Tiger has always looked to my eye to trend toward hitting, but his new pattern is a swing. He has the pattern 'almost' down, but that poor right forearm forces him to try to 'save' a shot with the hands, or worse, the shoulder.

Even as good as the greatest player ever is, he can not escape the laws of physics and geometry!

If I had Tiger on the lesson tee - lesson 1 would be impact fix and the flying wedges alignments!

Great Post. John Reigger stated, in an ealier post on this site, that he hoped Tiger did not find out about TGM. There seem to be only a few tour players who set the right forearm on plane, or a right arm flying wedge. They are great players becuase of theit talent and athletecism, but do struggle with the bain of all golfers inconsistency.

Porper impact fix alignments among the tours elite and look out. What kind of G.O.L.F. would we see then? I personally dream of the day we see it.

Ed,

Another great post. Please elaborate on what "high right forearn" is.

I can visualize it over or under plane, and only one of them is probably correct.

Thanks,

UPP in freezing Ohio

Tiger hits those whackjob shots because he has his upperbody hanging back and his arms running away from him . . . too tilty. It's a bob thing.

A 'result' of bad alignments.

He needs to lose the obsession with firing his hips. This leads to him having his hips too face on to the target on full out shots, before his shoulders and arms reach their preordained destination. Hence the blocks right.

When he does slow the hips down his shoulders and arms, which usually struggle to keep pace with the Driver, often outrun the hips in his Iron play.

You gonna' tell him, or will I?

Bobby B...baby...Bobby B
 

He "needs" to set his head lower at address, don't you think? He looks like a Sumo starting down...el squatto! :dontknow:

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Ed,
Amazing post. Even a TGM idiot like me understands exactly what you are talking about.

Maybe loading right and hanging back . . . His iron swing looks different to me more centered and on top of it.

I just left him a message . . . He called back and said for you to show up at his place in Florida. Said to bang on the door as hard as you can. He really likes to hear Free Bird sung really loud about 3:30 in the morning. He said to let you know if he doesn't come to the door immeadiately just keep singing really loud to the guards. They love to be entertained. Also he said something about making sure that you show up just in your tighty whiteez. He said give him a few minutes and he'll be right down to greet you. You may as well book the flight. He wants you there ASAP.

Get to steppin'!!!

After you fix his pivot, get him to stop cocking his right wrist. And tell him not to whine about it. :laughing9

Dude . .. How many times do we have to go over this???

Please produce evidence that Eldrick COCKS his right wrist . . .

One thing I've noticed about Tiger...when he is playing bad he takes full responsibility for it....doesn't blame the course, the weather, the photographers, the fans, his opponents. When he sucks he is the first to point it out. When he was a young punk growing up in our area, he would throw fits on the course ....his parents straightened him out quickly on that crap. Tiger is probably the last guy to leave the range after a poor outing.

Hey . . . There's still light . . . Leave Me a Few
 

Or, after a good outing.

It's still hard to comprehend his talent. Ten hours practice per day isn't enough to be #1.

:eh: :pale: :shaking: Now wacha go and do that fer? You know I can't sang!

pops. i guess he thought i would be there with you singing in the background, like i used to with the florida singing sons in 1980.lol

True, he very often is out of sequence, both because of his active hips, and as attempts to 'save' shots. It really is telling just how high his right shoulder comes through on those blocked shots.

Yesterday, the little bit of coverage I saw, he really looked in much better sequence on his good shots. Very 'connected'. The hands and chest moving through together. (hence swinging the entire power package as a unit - 'in synch').

Perhaps the best player to watch for that is Ken Venturi, who appeared to always have the proper Rhythm and hands to chest relationship. One of the best 'swings' ever IMO.

uppndownn - the right forearm flying wedge - the right forearm 'supporting' the shaft, in line with it from a down the line view at impact with a bent right wrist. Watch some of the video clips of Brian Gay setting up to a shot in the gallery for a great example. A big key to obtaining that in line support is that the right wrist is 'level'. See the photo's in chapter 5. Tiger often has the right forearm 'over' that line (pulls) or under it (pushes), both caused in large part from not having the level right wrist/in line relationship understanding of impact fix.

Thanks
 

Got it. Thanks Ed Z. :salut:

UPP in sunny and warming Ohio

Inside out draws with a bunch of clubface rotation make me ill. The ball can go anywhere: Push, Draw, Big Hook

Wouldn't Tiger's significant head drop cause him to alter his plane line and hit the occasional fat shot?

Its OK for you, Son. You can still hold a note but when I sing nowadays someone has to hold my teeth!!! :laughing1

It must be working OK as he had something like 46% birdies out there.......with an eagle or two thrown in!

UPP in Ohio

Tiger was putting first on a majority of the holes against Baddeley. All Baddeley had to do was make one (of several chances within 15 ft) putt and it was over for Tiger. The difference is Tiger's putting he is by far the best on the greens. He also putted lights out against Holmes. Today Tiger's ball striking was excellent.

They can only hope
 

I'm sure everyone on tour would like nothing more than for Tiger to re-work his swing again. Doubt that is going to happen...at least not this year. :snooty:

Didn't get to see JB but Tiger made like 90 feet of putts in 4 holes or something crazy to beat him. The cats on the Golf Channel were saying that the Woods vs. Baddeley match was the match of the decade. I watched that. . . . those boys hit some GOLF SHOTS. I caught the last 5 holes . . . it was fun to watch.

Baddeley didn't hit any BAD putts on those closing holes . .. they just didn't go in. Some folks say that Tiger got lucky . . . he sure does seem to get "lucky" a bunch.

Lucky
 

"Baddeley didn't hit any BAD putts on those closing holes . .. they just didn't go in. Some folks say that Tiger got lucky . . . he sure does seem to get "lucky" a bunch."

Don't you wish you did, Bucks? :eyes:

Yer Pal In Ohio

I watched most of it and thought that Baddeley out played Tiger tee to green. Tiger is longer than Baddeley off the tee but Baddeley was on target.
It was a tremendous match. Tiger is just so solid with the putter his line and speed are just better than everyone else.

I get plenty Lucky . . . just nobody in the room with me.

I agree . . . He was less longer than Badds than I thought he would be though.

Think Eldrick wins the grandslam?

:golf: Tiger made fewer mistakes and great putts when they counted, hence he won more holes. He gets all of the money and the trophy.

It's not a beauty contest. :)

Tiger can walk away knowing that even if he places just a few shots exactly where he wants, he can still win.

That's Scary. :crybaby:

To win the grandslam you have to be in peak form each event and deal with the incredible media hype and mental pressure. Tiger is currently in peak form - can he keep it going? I think he wins 2 or 3 but not 4.

Ok . . . wager . . . I'll take the over on 2 1/2 Majors . . . I lose I post a picture of me nekkid in my avatar. You lose you gotta kiss Mike O on the mouth for 10 minutes.

lose---lose

Help us!

UPP in snowy again Ohio