Wristcock and Power
 

2-P (page 41)
“The Wriscock shortens the Swing Radius to facilitate and synchronize the Rhythm and Acceleration of the Pivot and Power Package.”

I have not found anywhere in the 6th Edition, where HK says that Greater Wristcock will produce more power and the ball will go farther. Has anyone else?

levers of all sizes
 

I dunno bout that, but I do know that it is easier to move a 3ft lever than a 5 ft lever...until it is time to become a 5ft lever again!

It says it in your quote (not power but angular acceleration and velocity) . . . the shorter the radius the more angular acceleration which COULD be transferred to more tangential velocity . . . easier to take a 3 foot board around a corner than a 12 foot board . . . BUT the 12 foot board has more inertia.

In our other fight in the sequenced release section . .. watch Zach Johnson vs. Sergio . . . to generate an equal amount of clubhead speed Zach has to have faster hands to get that longer lever around the corner.

Read up on the endless belt in 2-K and 6-E-2 (I think. . . where ever the stuff about aiming point is) in the 7th edition. Homer has some really great additions fleshing out the endless belt. Endless Belt is HUGE. Sergio is endless belt small pulley on 'roidz.

Bucket must be drinking because that's the only time that he stumbles onto a good thought. Besides momentum transfer I would say the following also answers your question- 6-B-0 ..."Varying the amount of out-of-line ..... will vary the amount of Power that can be Released....."

4 posts in one day . . . you can't stay away . . .

Yes. Thank you, it's clear to me and I understand that now. Sergio has greater Clubhead Speed But Zach has greater Inertia. If the Right Wrist stays level, then as CF Uncocks the Left Wrist, It Unbends the Right Arm. Then Transfer Power Accumulator #3 is transferring the Inertia from the Right Arm to the Primary Lever. Inertia gets Transfered. Am I on the Right Track?

I bought the Seventh Edition in the first Shipment but I stopped referencing it within a couple of days. I know that it's from Homer's notes but I think that some of the new information may not be from Homer or in Homers own words and I wouldn't know the difference. It's taken me twenty-five years to get this far and I don't think I have another twenty-five. But I'll take a look.

Endless Belt
 

Bucket: the endless belt is huge but I can't grasp it
would you be so kind to advise?
I'd love to hatch that egg

It's basically the generation of angular acceleration and momentum via the short radius . . . so think of the weight on a string type deal. You can whip it around really fast in a little tight circle . . .but then when you let the string out it's still in rhythm but the weight is going faster because it's farther from the center of rotation.

The key is short radius to build up speed . . . then to extend the radius to take advantage of the speed. That's why homer said that #2 is SIMPLY LEVER EXTENSION. You don't really have to work to uncock it fast (you can though if you want) but because of the way it works according to law . . . when the radius extends the surface speed increases.

So Zach and Sergio are interesting studies . . . you guys say that Sergio is a flipper . . . maybe . . . BUT Zach is DANGEROUSLY close to full lever extension BEFORE getting to the ball. Go watch that video . . . I would argue that you want that clubhead HIGHER for a number of reasons. But Zach's swing is good for hitting drivers I'd think. And probably good with fairway woods and from the fairway. Maybe not so good from cuppy lies and rough. And that swing probably requires a great amount of effort/hand speed to generate an equal amout of clubhead speed.

I'm certainly not suggesting that everybody should try to have the amount of accumulator lag that Sergio has . . . but I'd lean towards a higher clubhead because you don't have to have super fast hands to generate speed . . . law works the speed for you. Plus the added benefit of a sharper angle of attack on the irons.

But who am I to say . . . I couldn't beat a one legged hair lipped stripper layin' 2 a side.

I'd suggest leaving the book . . .do a search on pulley wheel diameters in google. Take a look and report back . . . start there. There's some pretty good stuff on endless belt on this site. I posted some pulley wheel stuff last year . . . I'm too lazy to find it right now.

But do that google search and holla back . . . it's pretty enlightening.

6-B-3-0
In the First Paragraph HK is talking to Hitters. In the Second Paragraph he is talking to Swingers.

6-B-3-A "Plus the transfer of the residual Clubhead velocity of Accumulator #2. So, there is more than Velocity that's being transfered. Furthermore he says that "Maximum Swing Radius" increases Maximum Power, AND Swing Radius is INERTIA 6-B-0. In a nutshell, Swingers use CF to develop inertia and Uncock the Left Wrist and MUST transfer that to the Primary Lever so a Hinge can guide Clubface and Clubhead in a Rhythm through the Ball. Rhythm means that the Clubhead path going into the ball is mirrored through the Ball and at separation. I get it. I think. :salut: :golf: :golfcart:

Hinged action of Angular Motion on an Inclined Plane. Not as eloquent but a conclusion nonetheless. I feel like Mini-Yoda.

Perfect. I'd like to argue, but even your grammar is good for a Southerner.

Home Team
 

This is a wonderful thread for all of us. A real treat. And it would be even greater if all of you could 'hear' what I'm 'hearing' . . .

The unique voices of the participants.

I know these guys, and when I read their posts -- the laconic Daryl, the 'south in yo mouth' Bucket and the professorial Mike O -- I hear them.

And it is an absolute hoot!

:eyes:

I last saw Daryl at Paiute in Vegas; Bucket at Falcon's Fire in Orlando; and Mike O at PGA of Southern California in Beaumont. I miss them -- and the many more 'voices' of LBG -- and am now determined to make some sort of LBG Reunion / Invitational happen.

It's time!

Boss . . . you are kind and generous in soooooo many ways . . .

But Mike O professorial? If Hannibal Lecter and Mr. Furley had a baby . . . it would be one Mike Oberstanker

Wood and Coal,

I will leave chapter and verse to those better able, but I can tell you that you are about to have a lot of chirping going on! This is HUGE! Unless you have the hand speed of say...a teenaged Bucket...your hands better not move in a circle delivery path. Circle delivery path requires faster hand speed. The primary and secondary levers will find what they like most...an in line relationship. How do you prevent a premature alignment? 10-23-A is Homer's solution, a straight line delivery path. A smaller pulley wheel = surprising speed e.g. Sergio G. One of the benefits is that you do not have to increase your belt speed (hand speed) to utilize the endless belt effect. The club whips around the corner as it were at the same RPM as the belt, but with increased MPH. Yoda references the disappearing ducks we see at State fairs. Something for nothing as it were. Funny that attempting to speed your hands can throw everything off. It has to do with concentric circles. There are some good graphics on this site illustrating the endless belt effect. Look em' up. Don't let this one go...stick with it!

I rank my realizations in this order. Top 5 anyway!

1. Flying Wedges
2. Hinge Action
3. Tracing a straight plane line
4. Straight line delivery
5. The alignments of the 10-2-B grip

good luck

Very nice . . . subtle . . . Handspeed of a teenaged Bucket . . . . and then "premature alignment" . . .you're coming right around . . . I've picked up significant handspeed since marrying what'shername by the way.

Another point . . . with a small pulley like Sergio . . . you can have a slower handspeed . . . not only that YOU DON'T WANT (by definition) FAST HAND SPEED because what? . . . OVER-ACCELERATION is . . . come on everybody . . . say it with me . . .

I'll be there and I'm sure Neil will too. Give me enough notice to schedule the Nuns. Bucket and I can take'm. I know we can.:)

Enough time? Please . . . you know you got 'em on your speed dial.

How did Neil get in this? Next thing you know y'all'll be talkin' about asking Ted to come. I roomed with that fool last time . . . it was like living with George the Animal Steel.



If Mike O, Neil, and Ted make the trip we won't have enough cash to pay all the bail money . . . Ted beat up the bell hop because the ran out of dougnuts and "didn't have no biscuits." Complimentary!!!!!!!! much less the excess charges on fire insurance at the motel . . . Don't go there. I know your thinking . . . "well surely Mike will sleep in his van." But Mike knows how to set swimming pools on fire.

In the immortal words of New Edition . . . Count me out!!!!!

So, you've met Neil! Whenever the Brit speaks, we'll have to duck because someone will be swingin. I'll make a donation to the Police Retirement Fund in advance. :)

Unfortunately . . . . . and by the way . . . that whole accent thing . . . FAKER than Pam Anderson's . . . that's all an act to pick up chicks waddling out of Jenny Craig (not that there's anything at all wrong with that). He cranked that accent deal up and told me "you gotta cut the vulnerable ones outta the herd." Whatever works . . . I've found it's a whole lot easier just to rip open a bag of cheetoz and yell . . . "Hey baby! You want some of this???"

$$$$
 

How much money do you want to leave this forum? - the checkbook is out- name your price! Name a price or I'm taking up bowling! Let's see - that would be a level right wrist- aiming the lag pressure at the ... , hitting or swinging hmm! Ted- want to go bowling? Oh ya- one question- Bucket said that you got the hernia from consuming 29 doughnuts in a little under 1 hour- true or not true? Did you remember the guy in the pink trying to help you?

Verrrrrrrrrry nice!!!! "Can I help you push in your stool?"

Nose pressed firmly on the glass!
 

Juvenile...callow...vernal...puerile...but strangely hypnotic! I may be experiencing some kind of psychological distress! I realized that I am not an alumnus of this LBG School, or that LBG School.

I may have to raid the kiddies' college fund! Damn those growing feet...so many of them...so many...!

Yoda, I felt left out...like a leprecaun at a Lucky Charms Convention. I could send a recording...until then picture in your mind's ear...a dash of British colonial (i.e. sardonic disdain for all other living creatures)...with a pinch of the deabilitating effects of 15 years of exposure to Oklahomisms and Okie contractions! Y'all have a nice day, ya hear!

:) Dear Okie,

It's not my place to say, however I feel as though you're a valuable contributor to TGM Central and certainly a big part of the craziness and intellectual instability we all share. Don't raid the College fund. I have always found it more beneficial to use the Mortgage Money.

I like Oklahoma. I like it's location. It's so far south I don't have to travel through it on my way to Jackson Hole. (Just Kidding about Oklahoma, I don't really know where it is.)
:)

What does Pamela Anderson have that's FAKE?
Mike O-Does Bucket need new glasses?
Speaking of glasses-I look forward to "chinking"a few with Daryl at the reunion!:occasion:

More Accumulator #2 could produce more Power if your decrease in Handspeed resulting from the more out-of-line condition doesn't cause the overall Clubhead Speed to slow.

Stool
 

Are you going to push me in my stool? Push me on my Stool? Push my stool out for me? Whatever it is - yes- as long as you don't mind some drool on your shoes.

I did notice that you completely ignored my blank check offer- addiction is a very bad thing.

You may be asking yourself - What does all this have to do with wristcock and power? My answer to you Bucket is "Please- there is no reason to go there- don't stoop so low."

P.S. We may need to talk- I've noticed a little issue with Neil and Daryl's posts recently- I've got addresses - it maybe time for a road trip. I'm sure Neil's already hiding under his couch - whimpering.

Mike you still trying to pass of foodstamps as checks?

You get the gas money together. I'll go up north with you to deal with Daryl . . . with Neil you're on your own. I'm scared of that dude . . . I saw him beat some "dude" senseless with his high heel sneaker.

Star Trek XX?
 

This thread is going where no LBG thread has gone before.

I'm glad I'm too busy working up the next set of LBG videos to get involved.

Y'all are on your own. :salut:

When you arrive, please inform the Guards at the Front Gate of the Clubhouse that you're my guest. They'll escort you to wherever I am. :)

Are you HIM????



Me and Mike had to look up that Bellagio joint . .. I was trying to tell him it wasn't no Taco Bell(agio) spin-off. I just knew it was that place that Neil tried to give that hairlipped dancer a hand full of change and they set that divot on his head on fire.

Pipe down . . . when we want a lady's opinion we'll call Mrodock. You stick fishing for compliments.

Speaking of fish, you smell like you've been trying to catch some catfish at the carp pond. No dinner for you shark boy.

MMMMMM Catfish . .. that's underwater pork . .. love that stuff.

It's a nice place to spend a weekend. I'll offer you a Tip. Butler Service in the Presidential Suites was a little slow last year, so when you check-in, ask for George. He's the best Butler on staff. :)

Verrrrry nice! They won't let me back in the joint. I upperdecked Mike O's room when they mistaked him for Boy George last time he was out that way . . .



I know what you are thinking . . . yes that's what I'd look like if I was a chick . . . Rosie that is.

RosieBoy
 

Shoulda taken anything but the yellow pill, Neo! Know you are unplugged from THE MATRIX...AGAIN! Not to worry you still have Trinity...not the vixen in patent leather you perv...you know...the three imperatives!

You crack me up, Toejam!

Transition
 

That is Daryl. I think it was a few years ago that he said he was transitioning from a Hitter to a Swinger- little did I know what he was talking about - until he sent the photo for Christmas!

OK Bucket- I think we've sufficiently sabatoged this thread- Onward HO!

He's a HO now too??????

Please remember to take your shoes off before entering the LAB.

You DON'T want Mike to take his shoes of NOWHERE EVER. His feet smell almost as bad as his breath.