Geometry of Standing to the Ball
 

Video taped my driver move this weekend . . . looks like I'm standing too far away from the pill at address. Is there a Geometric procedure for getting the correct distance from the ball. My hands almost line up with my nose. Should they be in line with the shoulders or what?

I have heard it said that the some part of the chest should cover the hands at address.

You know your impact fix (hands mid body, visually covering big toe).
You know the plane line you must trace with #3 PP.
Solve for the position of the hands at address.

(assume no shift in plane angle).

All Fixed.
 

SEC is on the right track. 3-F-5 Address Routine, Forward Press, Zone #3 Rehearsal and Feel with Impact Fix verifying Six Alignments; EVERYTIME. Then Start Up from Fix or Adjusted Address.

Right boss . . . but I can Fix from several hand locations relative to where the arms hang from my shoulders right?

Become your own "Mr. Fix It".
 

Go to Fix with...

Hands to Ball: Left Wrist is Flat, Level and Vertical, Right Wrist Bent, Level and Vertical: Wedges intact. Verify per 2-J-1.

Right Forearm Position: On Plane Right Forearm and Clubshaft, not arms hanging from shoulders. Check in a mirror so you can look, look, look.

Holla back (I am starting to sound like you :eyes: ).

Hi Bucket, surely "adjustd address" is about keeping the stationary components of your "fix" in that position - your hands can do whatever they like... at least as long as they are visible to your playing partners....

Your impact position is determined by pp3 tracing and head - the hands are guided irrespective of where they start. LAG pressure guides them .... just put them somewhere at adjusted address that allows you to maintain plane alignments.

Also, check PP#4. If you are getting too far away, you won't have much. I like to use Hogan's 'feel' of the upper arms to chest to get my measure from the ball, not something to over do, but just an awareness of PP#4.

Ahh now I think I'm starting to smell some good stuff cookin' . . .

Please expand on this here . . .

thanks!

B

Good one! :happy3:

I think my problem is that my hands are so far from my body that it is difficult to keep the right forearm on plane.

Another angle
 

Bucks,

Check your balance at address.

That should keep you off your toes!

UPP in steamy Ohio

I use a mid body hands address setup....

First I organize my upper body...

Left wrist on top of the shaft and paralell to the leading edge of the clubface.

Right hand to the side of the left thumb where it fits into the lifeline of the right hand.

Center the clubshaft to the middle of the hips by pushing down with the heel pad of the left hand...left hand bent, this connects the #4 pp.

Respective elbows point at the respective hips with right elbow slightly bent and a slight pressure against #1 pp will cause the elbow to move more under which will connect the right upper arm to the side of the chest (#5pp??? don't know).

Once the upper body is organized establishing the spine bend should not be a forward movement. This will cause the upper spine area to bend or hunch over with the tendency of weight moving too much to the toes.....instead push the butt back bending at the hip sockets like an oriental bow. The weight of the upper body is then counterbalanced by that of the lower body. Majority of the body weight will be towards the heels which will settle just in front of the heels when the knees are bent. The ability to tap the toes up and down with both feet will give the feeling of good balance. A slight spine tilt can be established with a small forward/upward bump of the left hip. Done right this will compress the right shoulder down toward the right hip.

Who knows...may help, may not....still gotta hit that ball.

Basically, while my club may change, the relative relationships of the club to my body don't - that is to say, I let the flying wedges be my guide.

My setup procedure involves setting up the wedges in a way that I KNOW that to hit a good shot, my wedges are in place.

See the "setting up for compression" post in the drills section, (link in my signature)

Part of that setup process is to use PP#4, and balance, as my reference points for how far to stand from the ball.

I've set my wedges, I set PP#4, I step in to the shot and, keeping those in place, I find my balance.

Sounds like a lot but it really is easy to do, and to build into your routine.

It is also very, very helpful to setting ball position, because you have set your impact alignments, and let your balance assure you've got those wedges AND good balance at the proper moment.

Most people fight balance because they have bad alignments.

Gotta love the flying wedges!

Do you set your wedges on an the inclined or horizontal plane?

I check them on both often, mostly to check my right wrist is 'level', but my setup routine is setting them as impact fix - on 'the' inclined plane.