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Delaware Golf 07-01-2007 05:01 PM

PGA Tour Players who Swing as Tomasello taught swinging
 
Just read another piece on a PGA Tour pro that appears to swing as Tom Tomasello taught (Luke Donald featured in this months Golf Digest - July issue).....in this thread I'll keep a list of top players who seem to fit into this category.

So far......

-Jodie Mudd (studied with Tomasello)
-Ernie Els just checkout his book "How to build a Classic Golf swing" page 126 then page 41 for starters.
-Retief Goosen - swing analysis by Ian Baker-Finch..."Retief all right arm".
-Davis Love III - Davis Love Jr. worked with Tommy.
-Luke Donald - July 2007 Golf Digest swing analysis by Pat Gross (look for the term quiet lower body in the analysis).
-Zach Johnson - Studies the swing with Mike Bender.....checkout the Golf Academy live piece on Bender talking about the golf swing....resembles Tommy's instruction to a T.

DG

tradekid 07-02-2007 12:45 AM

Put your flame suit on because the usual suspects will appear shortly.

Mike O 07-02-2007 03:13 AM

Brilliant
 
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Originally Posted by tradekid (Post 43340)
Put your flame suit on because the usual suspects will appear shortly.

Now, that's a brilliant post! Bucket take note of this- raise your game my friend!:happy3:

SECGolf 07-03-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 43331)

--Ernie Els just checkout his book "How to build a Classic Golf swing" page 126 then page 41 for starters.
DG

Went back to Mr. Big Easy's book last night.
Man, I love what he has to say. Really speaks to the hand controlled pivot - hips respond to hands (feel, intent, actual microscopic movement - whatever)
he is thinking of feeling his hands move down plane. (Thus preventing an early right hip spin out and the resulting disasterous interferance). Hips slide an amount, but his focus is in the hands.

Bigwill 07-03-2007 02:53 PM

What does Els say??

Thom 07-03-2007 03:15 PM

Hitter lookalikes
 
How about players like Darren Clarke and Kenny Perry?
They look as if they're hitting but with horizontal hinges. Would you say they can fall into the category of right arm swingers?

nuke99 07-03-2007 06:54 PM

Urgh...

TT is not teaching a right arm swing ....

Its "one of the" correct way to swing a club .. with the forearm being active and accumulator 1 being active. Its a powerful method !

john riegger 07-04-2007 05:39 PM

swinging is pulling and hitting is pushing.you cannot hit and draw the ball.
you can have right arm participation and be a swinger,but you are still pulling.kenny perry is a true swinger,i grew up with him and play practice rounds with him all the time.he cannot hit a cut to save his life.if he was a hitter that would be all he could do.ask yoda if you dont believe me.i was demonstrating to him today hitting and swinging during a practice round in cleveland today,when i dont want it to go left and make sure it cuts i use hitting motion.the right forearm loads completely different and is very evident at top and finish.once again you cannot draw the ball using hitting motion.if you are you are not doing it right.

Bagger Lance 07-04-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by john riegger (Post 43446)
once again you cannot draw the ball using hitting motion.if you are you are not doing it right.

John - You might doublecheck with Yoda, Rob or Ted on that one. There is a way to work the ball using a hitting stroke. Rotating clubface in the grip and adjusting plane line. Much different procedure than for swingers but equally effective. Agree that a "pure" hit is a slight fade, but with adjustments you can hit it laser straight or draw.

Those that have mastered hitting are few and far between because it is only taught by a handful of TGM folks, and some of the procedures are very different from swinging.

Go gettem this week!!! Good luck! :)

6bmike 07-04-2007 08:44 PM

Ball Position and Plane Line and NOT "just" a hinge action controls ball flight.

12 piece bucket 07-04-2007 10:56 PM

I'd say you can draw the ball with any hinge action . . . but I just ate a doo doo ball.

nuke99 07-04-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 43452)
Ball Position and Plane Line and NOT "just" a hinge action controls ball flight.

Can you please explain a bit more? thank you.

EdStraker 07-05-2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 43458)
Can you please explain a bit more? thank you.


If ball position is forward in stance, trajectory will be higher. I think Ben's video covers the effect the plane line has on working the ball(draw/fade).

Delaware Golf 07-05-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john riegger (Post 43446)
swinging is pulling and hitting is pushing.you cannot hit and draw the ball.
you can have right arm participation and be a swinger,but you are still pulling.kenny perry is a true swinger,i grew up with him and play practice rounds with him all the time.he cannot hit a cut to save his life.if he was a hitter that would be all he could do.ask yoda if you dont believe me.i was demonstrating to him today hitting and swinging during a practice round in cleveland today,when i dont want it to go left and make sure it cuts i use hitting motion.the right forearm loads completely different and is very evident at top and finish.once again you cannot draw the ball using hitting motion.if you are you are not doing it right.


Third edition 3 barrel hitting stroke....the stroke pattern used a punch basic stroke, standard wrist action, horizontal hinging, right arm trigger. With this hitting stroke one should be able to hit a great draw shot easily. See 7-2 about hitting a hook with a pure hitting stroke per 12-1-0, it can be done.....I've done it.

DG


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