CF what do she feel like?
 

What SHOULD the proper use of CF feel like? How do you harness it and how do you overpower it?

Above all else - it should feel like smoooooooth motion.

and if you've gotten in touch with your pressure points in your hands, it will also feel very 'heavy'.

Imagine you're swinging a feather, and do your best to make it 'feel' like a sledge hammer, while staying smooooooth.

simple or hard
 

The constant pull.

You pretend it doesn't exist and keep rotating or spining and let the "LAW" take over, which can be the simplest way.

You may mess around with the "LAW" to get something out of it, which could be the hard way.

"Let" It All Hang Out
 

BTS hit the key word "Let". Over-Power it by causing something to happen, instead of letting it happen.

How do you teach somebody "let" that don't "let." Sounds like my college dating . . . . never could teach let there.

Eyes closed, heavy club, feet together. Back and through, back and through.

You HAVE to 'let' or you'll fall over.

I love the Toski/Love image of the kid on a swingset. Imagine your hands are the kid.

"I let my swing balance me" - Moe Norman

It should feel like the converse of what is really happening.

Rather than looking for an outward (Cf) pulling force, focus on what is really happening, your inward (Cp) pull on the handle of the golf club, which is moving in a circular (broadly speaking) motion.

You cannot overpower Cf as it is, and will always remain, an EQUAL and OPPOSITE reaction to the Centripetal force that you are exerting on the golf club.

I like the smell of this . . . could you please expand your thoughts . . . fog is lifting!

More please kind sir!

Note: I had a thought on this that may be applicable to your incisive comments . . . Bucket has been working on his Swangin'. He has been hammer with a golf club left hand only in a vertical plane. The he hammers on an Inclined Plane. One thing that Bucket has noticed particularly on the vertical hammering is if the left hand moves down the vertical plane strongly . . . the club/hamer WHIPS out. Now to get that same dealie on the Inclined Plane . . .

Watchu thankin' stankin'?

dang pops! never knew you could sound soooo smart! uhuh! i thought you were a grits and pinto kinda dad. :eyes: :salut:

So the question is ...

How does one increase the centripetal force? in a swing? to increase club head speed?

spin faster
 

Spin/rotate/turn faster, I guess.

Not too sure about the hips; which move on a different plane to the inclined plane that the club is on. IMHO the hips do nothing other than allow the shoulders full range of movement on the back swing and clear the way for them to enjoy the same privilege on the down swing and follow through.

Now, the shoulders are another matter. The gyroscopic, down plane, thrust of the right shoulder really gets things under way.

Initially. the left arm is largely inert but increases in influence as the motion progresses and the down plane right shoulder drive switches to a left shoulder/left arm pull up plane against a braced left side.

This movement is augmented by a straightening right arm, release of accumulator #1, driving pp1 and pp3 down to low point (bit of Mr Tomasello here Dave?), the uncocking of the left wrist, release of accumulator #2, and the release of #3 accumulator as they lead to accumulator #4 being blasted off the chest.

Placing undue emphasis on power from the hips tends to destroy the rest of the swing - ask Tiger.

Centrifugal force, as the ally of a swinger (swinger, using CF to move the lever assemblies into their inline condition).

It should feel as an efficient and precise flail motion.

Correct this if I got it wrong but it will probably be right, the proper use of centrifugal force may feel like the overpowering of the lever assemblies coming close to impact, a quite sudden strong and rising velocity during release, thorugh impact and increasing to follow through, but never the accumulators must pass their inline condition in this moments.

However I don't try to monitor directly centrifugal force.

I try to have this lag/ club trailing at this critical part of the swing, having the sensation of the clubhead's inertia pulling the tendons/muscles in the lag's inertia/movement resistance, all with the as powerfull as possible swing, moving the hands through impact in order to increase that clubhead's inertia feeling, as in "leaving the club well behind", all with the left arm and club being a complete, whole, one unit, as a one whole lever, which matches the description "the hands are just adjustable clamps".

Increasing the circular motion's "tangential speed", or lag vs hands moving fast feeling, will result in a greater centrifugal force. I indirectly use the involved CF in my swing to uncock the left wrist letting the physics described previously handle this and not wrist muscles uncock or release nº2 accumulator, when the left wrist started to roll and come into hinge action.