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airair 02-07-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 82193)
Holding the Flat Left Wrist Vertical to one of Three Associated Planes (Horizontal, Angled, Vertical), imparts the same Alignment to the Clubface.



If TT's Clubface had "Zero Loft" while demonstrating the Clubface-Stick example, it would be more valid for explaining the effects of Hinge Action. ??

Do your quotes confirm or disprove what I said? :?

Yoda 02-07-2011 09:38 PM

Confucius Say, "It's Confusing."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 82189)
What's wrong with Tommy's way to illustrate this? Doesn't the club face and the left wrist always point in the same direction - in these 3 types of hinging? :think:

What's "wrong with Tommy's way to illustrate this?" Here goes . . .

He's not illustrating 'this' -- Hinge Action -- he's illustrating 'that'. 'That' being his way of differentiating a laying back or closing Clubface using a rod stuck on the face of the club that finally becomes vertical (to the ground) or horizontal (to the ground). [As differentiated from the true concept below, the use of "to the ground" in the vertical action is deliberate and not a mistake.]

I'll grant that the rod makes the Clubface Motion more obvious. That's why I use and have fun with the super-large clubhead you've seen in some of my videos. But -- and here's the rub -- relating the precision Hinge Pin alignments of Vertical and Horizontal to the "vertical" and "horizontal" position of the rod makes me cringe.

Axiom #4 of the 21 axioms of The Machine (1-L) states that the Hinge Assembly (and its pre-positioned primary Hinge Pin) controls the Clubface alignment. The Hinge Pin is mounted Vertical to one of three Basic Planes: Horizontal, Angled, or Vertical.

Let's talk Horizontal Hinge Action for a moment. Tommy's rod on the Clubface becoming parallel to the horizontal plane, i.e., in a "horizontal" condition, has absolutely nothing to do with the true concept of Hinge Action. In fact, the rod becomes "horizontal" only at one point.

In true Horizontal Hinge Action, the Left Shoulder Hinge Pin (a theoretical, not biomechanical, concept) is always mounted vertical to the ground (the horizontal plane). This Hinge Pin mounting produces a Clubface Motion that is always closing.

In true Vertical Hinge Action, the Left Shoulder Hinge Pin is always mounted vertical to a wall (the vertical plane). This Hinge Pin mounting produces a Clubface Motion that is always laying back.

The Golfing Machine is hard enough already. "Short cuts" that confuse the issue do not make things easier. In fact, they serve only to confuse and, in the long term, make a true understanding even harder.

In your study, I implore you to find a competent instructor. One-on-one with an expert, complex concepts quickly become simple. But, as this post proves . . .

Going at it 'solo' can be a tough experience.

:salut:

airair 02-07-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 82195)
What's "wrong with Tommy's way to illustrate this?" Here goes . . .

He's not illustrating 'this' -- Hinge Action -- he's illustrating 'that'. 'That' being his way of differentiating a laying back or closing Clubface using a rod stuck on the face of the club that finally becomes vertical (to the ground) or horizontal (to the ground). [As differentiated from the true concept below, the use of "to the ground" in the vertical action is deliberate and not a mistake.]

I'll grant that the rod makes the Clubface Motion more obvious. That's why I use and have fun with the super-large clubhead you've seen in some of my videos. But -- and here's the rub -- relating the precision Hinge Pin alignments of Vertical and Horizontal to the "vertical" and "horizontal" position of the rod makes me cringe.

Axiom #4 of the 21 axioms of The Machine (1-L) states that the Hinge Assembly (and its pre-positioned primary Hinge Pin) controls the Clubface alignment. The Hinge Pin is mounted Vertical to one of three Basic Planes: Horizontal, Angled, or Vertical.

Let's talk Horizontal Hinge Action for a moment. Tommy's rod on the Clubface becoming parallel to the horizontal plane, i.e., in a "horizontal" condition, has absolutely nothing to do with the true concept of Hinge Action. In fact, the rod becomes "horizontal" only at one point.

In true Horizontal Hinge Action, the Left Shoulder Hinge Pin (a theoretical, not biomechanical, concept) is always mounted vertical to the ground (the horizontal plane). This Hinge Pin mounting produces a Clubface Motion that is always closing.

In true Vertical Hinge Action, the Left Shoulder Hinge Pin is always mounted vertical to a wall (the vertical plane). This Hinge Pin mounting produces a Clubface Motion that is always laying back.

The Golfing Machine is hard enough already. "Short cuts" that confuse the issue do not make things easier. In fact, they serve only to confuse and, in the long term, make a true understanding even harder.

In your study, I implore you to find a competent instructor. One-on-one with an expert, complex concepts quickly become simple. But, as this post proves . . .

Going at it 'solo' can be a tough experience.

:salut:

Finding a competent instructor is the least of my problems...

:golfcart:

Yoda 02-07-2011 10:09 PM

Twister Comin'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 82196)
Finding a competent instructor is the least of my problems...

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Air.

One trip from Norway and another one coming (all in a span of only six months) is evidence of your commitment.

Your airfare is booked, and your Cuscowilla accomodations are reserved. See you in March!

Soon, the Norwegian snows will melt, and the dark of winter will turn to the light of spring.

Your golfing buddies will be ready for some "Air".

:toothy1:

Then . . .

They'll "reap the whirlwind".

:shock:

I expect us to learn all about it -- here in your own uncensored thread -- at LynnBlakeGolf.com.

:salut:

airair 02-07-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 82197)
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Air.

One trip from Norway and another one coming (all in a span of only six months) is evidence of your commitment.

Your airfare is booked, and your Cuscowilla accomodations are reserved. See you in March!

The Norwegian snows will melt, and the dark of winter will turn to the light of spring.

Your golfing buddies will be ready for some "Air".

Then . . .

They'll "reap the whirlwind".

:shock:

I expect to learn all about it -- here in your own uncensored thread -- at LynnBlakeGolf.com.

:salut:

Sounds like a good plan.
From October to March, but the same off season. Almost unreal.:think:

Yoda 02-08-2011 02:26 AM

SnowBagger
 
:eyes: :-D
Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 82198)

Sounds like a good plan.
From October to March, but the same off season. Almost unreal.

:think:

Stay with me, Air. This will work . . .

10 United States dollars (USD) = 55 Norwegian Kroner (KON).

Now, given 1 USD to 5.5 KON, what kind of odds can we get?

Who cares!?

I'm in for 5 USD.

Maybe more.

Call me.



:golf:

airair 02-08-2011 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 82199)
:eyes: :-D

Stay with me, Air. This will work . . .

10 United States dollars (USD) = 55 Norwegian Kroner (KON).

Now, given 1 USD to 5.5 KON, what kind of odds can we get?

Who cares!?

I'm in for 5 USD.

Maybe more.

Call me.



:golf:

I can't say I understand what this means or what I should call you about. I pay my (US) bills in dollars. No problems there, I believe... :whistle:

Yoda 02-08-2011 02:19 PM

What Happens In Cuscowilla Stays In Cuscowilla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 82201)
I can't say I understand what this means or what I should call you about. I pay my (US) bills in dollars. No problems there, I believe... :whistle:

I was talking about backing you in a small wager when you next tee it up against your unsuspecting friends.

8)

airair 02-08-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 82205)
I was talking about backing you in a small wager when you next tee it up against your unsuspecting friends.

8)

Oh. I have no experience in that department.

In Norway we an old saying: Don't sell the skin before the bear is shot... :o

innercityteacher 02-08-2011 04:01 PM

Un -bearable loss of compression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 82207)
Oh. I have no experience in that department.

In Norway we say: Don't sell the skin before the bear is shot... :o

Since I am one of the greatest "threadjacka's of all time," it is only fitting that I become a victim of it, often. We are speaking about the Horizontal Hinge.

Air, have you ever HH'd on purpose? Did it hurt? :laughing9


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