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innercityteacher 12-28-2010 11:38 PM

I knew that was lurking out there, OB.
 
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80554)
Dont risk going blind dude , I dont even remember your remarks directed at me.

I thought Daryl would get me, but you? I have to check the Flyers game to see if they can pound Vancouver into ice cubes!
:)

ICT

Daryl 12-29-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 80548)
So EA is "baked-in" to RFT! OK, makes sense.

Thanks, Daryl! :)


ICT

Obviously, you got it.

So now you can understand that the larger radius of the Left Arm uses the smaller radius of the Right Arm (during the backstroke) to Cock the Left Wrist.

You can't demonstrate the Magic of the Right Forearm with your hands in front of you.

Yoda 12-29-2010 12:06 AM

The Pesle With the Pasle
 
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80560)

Fill your Hands Ned Pepper!

You would challenge Yoda?

En garde!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3oURsGzs9o&NR=1

So, now . . . A bolder knight?

Well, allrighty then!

But, first . . .

There must be a toast!

And a Wicked Witch to poison one of the two goblets.

But . . .

Which one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS75NtlH3gI

Get it?

Got it.

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80564)
Obviously, you got it.

Good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1VXhZT37E&NR=1

:salut:

O.B.Left 12-29-2010 11:03 AM

New York , medium no doubt. Do I know thee?
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80565)
You would challenge Yoda?

En garde!

Name your steaks Sir Knight.

I shall smote thee with mine own Hand, Rod and Claw....er wait a minute that aint right...

And if not , then "let rivers of blood wash away the stain of my disgrace as you spill the field with my dishonest guts".

But first there's something I must tell you ...."I am not left handed"....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v39qf...eature=related

whip 02-12-2011 02:33 PM

Soooooo
 
there is back, there is up and there is in instantly and simultaneously. If he is referring to not lifting your arms that's a choice, the little yellow book does not advocate one pattern over another such as a pattern that lifts the arms over one that does not. Tell jack Nicklaus there is no up in the backswing. To me, no matter what way he is intending to use the word up, to say there is no up in a golfswing contradicts the fact that golf is played on an inclined plane and not a horizontal plane. He demonstrates that standing straight up and swinging around his spine that there is no lifting simply rotating around the spine angle, then therefore when you bend at the waist and continue to simply swing around your spine angle it creates the inclined plane. The fact is though that even if you employ a plane and shoulder turn that does not require any manual lifting of the arms, the club started on the ground and at the top of the swing the club is in the air and not on the ground, therefore it went up.

miji 02-13-2011 07:51 PM

One long club
 
I think "no up" means no reason to elevate beyond TSP. I think Jack is "across" (w/flying rt elbow), not "up". McHatton also suggests that we create a very long "club" at impact...one that begins at the left foot and ends with the clubhead (he holds the club perpendicular to the ground directly above his head). A swing without EA which culminates in one fully loaded, very long primary lever? I think the image of building the long club provides freedom of movement yet incorporates many important alignments.

whip 10-01-2011 02:08 PM

Reppin hk
 
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Originally Posted by miji (Post 82322)
I think "no up" means no reason to elevate beyond TSP. I think Jack is "across" (w/flying rt elbow), not "up". McHatton also suggests that we create a very long "club" at impact...one that begins at the left foot and ends with the clubhead (he holds the club perpendicular to the ground directly above his head). A swing without EA which culminates in one fully loaded, very long primary lever? I think the image of building the long club provides freedom of movement yet incorporates many important alignments.

Need to clarify some things here....

Jack most certainly had an upward element in his golf swing, other than the basic truth that the club is In The air and not on the ground at the top of the swing, jack shifted planes, lifted his arms as many players if not most do. For the purpose of representing homer It is not right to say there is no up in the backswing. Backwards UPWARDS and inwards? Homer was the one who suggested we create a "very long club at impact" he taught us to not pass the swingle, to create leverage by a swing radius that extends through the feet, flat left wrist, forward leaning club shaft, pivot lag. Why would you want a swing without Extensor action as you mention? ea is repeated in the mechanical checklist several times, definitely something you want to use! if the primary lever was fully loaded then he would not have released anything, the primary lever should not be fully loaded at impact. Primary lever refers to the left arm and club shaft and cannot get longer than the length of the arm and Club shaft

MizunoJoe 10-01-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by miji (Post 82322)
I think "no up" means no reason to elevate beyond TSP. I think Jack is "across" (w/flying rt elbow), not "up". McHatton also suggests that we create a very long "club" at impact...one that begins at the left foot and ends with the clubhead (he holds the club perpendicular to the ground directly above his head). A swing without EA which culminates in one fully loaded, very long primary lever? I think the image of building the long club provides freedom of movement yet incorporates many important alignments.

"The Hat" wants the club swung up, back, and in, via the shoulder turn, and cocking the right elbow/left wrist, with no intentional arm lifting. Dump all the energy downwards and out the arms with the pivot. He is one of the real bargains in golf instruction at $40/hr!


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