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O.B.Left 10-20-2009 08:59 PM

Anybody got an answer for Slices question in post #47?

12 piece bucket 10-21-2009 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf (Post 68243)
If running down this plane can limit loading pp4, I'm assuming that kinetic link is affected (weaker) and the stroke must rely on acc1 to create speed.

I would argue #2 plays a big role here as well due to more obtuse (?) #3 angle . ..

EdZ 10-22-2009 01:06 PM

I would say it is basically a trade off between mass and speed.

With more #4 and a flatter plane, you have more speed, less mass. With more #2 and a steeper plane, you have more mass, less speed.

O.B.Left 10-23-2009 11:17 PM

I would have thought that being on the TSP allows a Swinger in particular or any Drag Loader with a quick turn in transition to load #4 hard and still have the Pressure Points travel the TSP via the On Plane move of the Right Shoulder in Startdown. Kinetic Link or Pivot Chain working but with On Plane motion.

I see Homers insights on the TSP as being a resolution to the roundhousing, off plane move associated with the Pivot initiating the Startdown otherwise. To say nothing of right elbow , hip conflict which he also resolves via a Hip Slide with a Delayed Hip Turn.

So to answer Slices question , the TSP is not solely a Hitters (those who fire #1) deal. All golfers need proper sequencing in Startdown and need to resolve any Plane or Deliver Path conflicts associated there with. These are some of Homers most practical insights. Still largely unknown despite it being in print since 1969 (assuming this was covered in the first edition which i dont have).

Daryl 10-23-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 68391)
I would have thought that being on the TSP allows a Swinger in particular or any Drag Loader with a quick turn in transition to load #4 hard and still have the Pressure Points travel the TSP via the On Plane move of the Right Shoulder in Startdown. Kinetic Link or Pivot Chain working but with On Plane motion.

I see Homers insights on the TSP as being a resolution to the roundhousing, off plane move associated with the Pivot initiating the Startdown otherwise. To say nothing of right elbow , hip conflict which he also resolves via a Hip Slide with a Delayed Hip Turn.

So to answer Slices question , the TSP is not solely a Hitters (those who fire #1) deal. All golfers need proper sequencing in Startdown and need to resolve any Plane of Deliver Path conflicts associated there with. These are some of Homers most practical insights. Still largely unknown despite it being in print since 1969 (assuming this was covered in the first edition which i dont have).

Geez, great post O.B. I take back what I said about the "Pop-up" book.:laughing9

I would only add that the #4 is Loaded as it crosses the Chest (becomes out of line).

O.B.Left 10-24-2009 02:29 PM

Here are two videos off of a top secret underground TGM site for the cogniscenti only. LBG Gallery Free Video section.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p....-Hitting.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...mp-Wedges.html


When ever this guru master turns DTL to the camera and runs his shoulder down the dowel aimed at the plane line, that is a TSP angle and an On Plane Shoulder Turn. But lets keep this a secret for another 40 years or so.

slicer mcgolf 10-24-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 68379)
I would argue #2 plays a big role here as well due to more obtuse (?) #3 angle . ..

I would agree on #2. if acc1 is firing down and somewhat out to get on the tsp, its close to lagging the hands, creating more #2 angle. But I have to question the #3 angle. Obtuse might be an understatement if impact is on the tsp. #3 angle would be non existant, no?

Thanks for the vids OB - I'm going to watch now.

O.B.Left 10-25-2009 03:17 PM

#3 Angle , the Angle formed by the left arm and clubshaft, "roll power", can be zeroed only by gripping the club along the life line in the left palm. Something we do to deaden the send associated with any left forearm roll when putting or for some when chipping. With a "normal" left hand grip going to fully uncocked approaches zero angle but doesnt ever reach it.

Startdown is on the TSP, Impact is on the Elbow Plane. The closer these two plane Angles are to each other the less "The Plane" is required to Shift Angle wise. Thats a good thing. The Elbow Plane is essentially the Shaft Plane when the Right Forearm lies on it. The TSP Angle varies with the type of Shoulder Turn employed in Backstroke, length of club etc. Getting the Power Package on the TSP you have chosen at Top precludes the need to drop the Hands from a higher plane onto the TSP prior to initiating an On Plane Downstroke. This is a good thing, as all plane shifts are hazardous, (though some are inevitable from Top to Impact for full power strokes, not putting, chipping etc)


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