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Retraining and glimpsing at the skirt of the ravishing Lady Par! Lady

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 85089)

Kevin, it's demonstrated in lots of places and like you, I have seen that film but cannot find it.

Lynn repeats it exactly here at 4:31:

http://youtu.be/AlqtEz_-Zx8

and demonstrates it clearly here through out the video:

http://youtu.be/EDNCLchMYRI

But, I had to remind myself of that damn right thumb on every swing or there would be no Flail and the Axis Tilt won't matter at all, as you know and I have to retrain! :BangHead:

Go to 5:10 ff.

http://youtu.be/pFbykFmNK5o

Ic T
Pat

Ok, I shot a terrible score yesterday , and still saw many new skills take shape after my visit with Lynn.

I made a lot of three puts from far away, and I also got greedy and turned five pars into bogies or worse. The greens are now in summer shape. I'm hitting my sweet spot on my putter through breaks and bouncing my putts out of the middle of holes or ripping around the edges and spitting out yards away. I practice putting now exclusively before my round, maybe that's the problem. I feel like I can hit anything and go for long putts a lot. :naughty:

I "putted my chips" to within 10 feet on 7 holes. The technique Lynn showed me using my putting grip works with lob wedges, pitching wedges, sand wedges and 9 irons. Several of those shots were within two feet and knocked away. Sadly, all of those chips were for par. Our rough is very thick but the right club getting the ball rolling to the hole right away is beautiful.

My driver and full swing were pulls to start. I corrected two big problems by marching and Pivoting fully until I felt the weight in my PP # 3 and my wrists fully set, and I got my right thumb off the frickin' club! As soon as my right thumb was loose I started bombing my drives straight and far! Sheesh! Those mistakes cost me 20 extra strokes or so, but once I made my last prep a waggle with a loose thumb with lag felt in the PP# 3, and checked my balance, it was FLAIL TIME!
:golf:

A repeatable FLAIL and putting/chipping technique has me very encouraged. This whole tape touches much of what Lynn showed me. Check out Sam's grip remarks from 5:00 to 7:00!

http://youtu.be/pFbykFmNK5o

Ic T

Another helpful EDZ post

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 85093)

Ok, I shot a terrible score yesterday , and still saw many new skills take shape after my visit with Lynn.

I made a lot of three puts from far away, and I also got greedy and turned five pars into bogies or worse. The greens are now in summer shape. I'm hitting my sweet spot on my putter through breaks and bouncing my putts out of the middle of holes or ripping around the edges and spitting out yards away. I practice putting now exclusively before my round, maybe that's the problem. I feel like I can hit anything and go for long putts a lot. :naughty:

I "putted my chips" to within 10 feet on 7 holes. The technique Lynn showed me using my putting grip works with lob wedges, pitching wedges, sand wedges and 9 irons. Several of those shots were within two feet and knocked away. Sadly, all of those chips were for par. Our rough is very thick but the right club getting the ball rolling to the hole right away is beautiful.

My driver and full swing were pulls to start. I corrected two big problems by marching and Pivoting fully until I felt the weight in my PP # 3 and my wrists fully set, and I got my right thumb off the frickin' club! As soon as my right thumb was loose i started bombing my drives straight and far! Sheesh! Those mistakes cost me 20 extra strokes or so, but once I made my last prep a waggle with a loose thumb with lag felt in the PP# 3, and checked my balance, it was FLAIL TIME!
:golf:

A repeatable FLAIL and putting/chipping technique has me very encouraged. This whole tape touches much of what Lynn showed me. Check out Sam's grip remarks from 5:00 to 7:00!

http://youtu.be/pFbykFmNK5o

Ic T

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Originally posted by EDZ

Perhaps one of the biggest challenges for true swinging is learning to 'trust' that CF will do its job and to 'allow' rotation. Instinct for most people is to 'try' to do something with the club, which unfortunately gets in the way of allowing the club to swing.

If you find that you are bringing the hosel into the ball, chances are you are either a) off plane or b) out of rhythm

Most often the issue is being off plane, having the club too inside on the takeaway with a 'lift and roll' motion of the hands that instantly takes the club off plane. Imagine a line along your toes parallel to the target line, at about the balls of your feet (where your hands are hanging at address). You want your hands to move back and through along that line, without the club getting too much 'behind' them off the plane. Work on this without a club, and even better, while swinging a rope or 'tempo ball' (see ebay).

This addresses the second main issue - rhythm. You can use a rope, or a towel, or even just a t-shirt. Swing it back and wait for it to hit your back, then through. You'll feel the 'swinging' rhythm, and with the t-shirt, you'll even feel that 'lag' loaded and dragged through. The feel of a 'heavy' club that will really help you feel those pressure points in your hands, and 'let' you SWING without trying. Swinging your hands as if they were a child on a swing set.

Lag the hands back to load PP # 3 from Standard Address AND WAIT FOR IT TO HIT YOUR BACK SO THAT YOUR WRISTS FULLY LOAD AND LAG IS FULLY DEVELOPED FOR FULL WRECKING BALL POWER (STAY IN BALANCE PRACTICE THIS) :read: EDZ also reminded us to think "heavy and smooth,)
and that club will crash Down on that little ball as you Pivot back!

IC T

Even more clarity

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 85104)

Something else Lynn spent time with me on was a backward Pivot LAG. Here's a good set of exercises from EDZ.

Here's the thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5448&highlight=right+thumb#post54 48

Lag the hands back to load PP # 3 from Standard Address AND WAIT FOR IT TO HIT YOUR BACK SO THAT YOUR WRISTS FULLY LOAD AND LAG IS FULLY DEVELOPED FOR FULL WRECKING BALL POWER (STAY IN BALANCE PRACTICE THIS) :read: EDZ also reminded us to think "heavy and smooth,)
and that club will crash Down on that little ball as you Pivot back!

IC T

This is helpful, imho.

Here's the thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3973&highlight=right+thumb#post39 73

The Feel Of The Clubhead Lag -- Word Games

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Originally Posted by Yoda

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Originally Posted by streak
Right now I'm using it to get the feel of PP3 accepting the resistance of the shaft, not creating it, which is hard for me to physically adapt to.

Whadya think? Thanks.

[Bold by Yoda.]
This is really, really great, Streak.

Just substitute the words 'Clubhead Lag' -- the inertia of the Lagging Sweet Spot which does not want to go along with you -- for the word 'Shaft' and you've got it.

Homer: "It [the Lag] just sags in there [the meaty part of the Right Forefinger]. It goes along because it has to. You don't throw the Club: You drag it through like a baby brother."
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Slow and Heavy in every direction! :golf:

IC T

Subtle distinctions about LAG and LAG PRESSURE

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 85105)

This is helpful, imho.

Here's the thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3973&highlight=right+thumb#post39 73

The Feel Of The Clubhead Lag -- Word Games

Slow and Heavy in every direction! :golf:

IC T

Again, EDZ, to the rescue making an important point by way of a good drill!

Here's the thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3973&highlight=right+thumb#post39 73

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Originally posted by EDZ

'throwing' the club gives you clubhead lag, but not lag pressure

think of the flail, of cracking a whip - the proper sequence must be there

You CAN get the proper sequence by doing the 'club throwing' drill, it is a very useful drill, but you still need to add lag pressure to that equation. No doubt that a drag feel, the towel drill, is a wonderul way to feel this.

Heck, you can do this by simply taking a t-shirt or towel and swinging it - swing back WAIT for it to hit you (near the center of your shoulders/back), and DRAG through - let it hit you, again near 'center' - back and through, back and through - a great tempo trainer, as well as lag pressure

Learning the feel of lag pressure was the single best thing I have learned from TGM, with the possible exception of DOWN, down, down

feel those pressure points in your hands

Until coming to this site, I had no knowledge of LAG or LAG PRESSURE! :crybaby:

Wanna swing like Hogan? Yoda? DRAG THE LAG BABY! :golf:

Here's a finishing technique I was unaware of found in this thread:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ht=right+thumb

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Originally posted by Yoda (I include this to remind myself of something important)

The Vertical Drop Of The Angled Line Delivery Path

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
Straight down, shifting to a shallower plane.

This is the Angled Line Delivery Path of 10-23-B. That is, "the Hands take a nearly vertical path to the Elbow [Plane] Angle" before they begin their Straight Line drive "directly at and through the Aiming Point."

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IC T

Hitting Contrasts

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 85106)

Again, EDZ, to the rescue making an important point by way of a good drill!

Here's the thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3973&highlight=right+thumb#post39 73

Until coming to this site, I had no knowledge of LAG or LAG PRESSURE! :crybaby:

Wanna swing like Hogan? Yoda? DRAG THE LAG BABY! :golf:

IC T

Over the last several weeks I have been playing with Hitting since Yoda showed me his HITTING WHICH SHOOK THE NEIGHBORHOOD! YODA DID NOT SHOW ME HOW TO HIT BECAUSE I AM DAMAGED AND CAN ONLY HANDLE SO MUCH NEW STUFF IN ANY 12 HOUR PERIOD! :)

Ok, so I learned Swinging but I wanted to try Hitting. Yoda is very inspirational and I felt like I could swim to Australia or Denmark after Yoda finished with me! :laughing1

So I MIXED THE LITTLE I KNOW OF HITTING WITH THE GOOD SWINGING INSTRUCTION I GOT FROM YODA. :crybaby: :naughty: :(

I WANT IT ALL NOW!!!!! I HAVE SEEN THE MAN AND I WANT TO BE LIKE THE MAN OK? :eyes:

BUT I AM NOT WORTHY! :hand:

But, I have found some cool posts to help me understand what I will study with Lynn next year during my school Spring Break God willing.

Here's the thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8105&highlight=right+thumb#post81 05

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Originally posted by Densikat (I am combining two posts)

Ok there are some things in your post that would definately suggest mixing.

First of all do not trust feel, you must get this on video or get an AI to help out hands on.

First off the pivot motion for hitting, imagine this:

tip over into your normal golf stance, point your right fist at the golf ball, pull the arm back and drive it forward as if to punch the golf ball. This is not meant to demonstrate the arm motion of hitting, rather the pivot motion... The right shoulder pulls back and gets into that backstop position you have probably seen people write about, it then drives down in a straight line at the ball.

Now you say that your hands get above your shoulder height, this is quite dangerous territory to go into when trying to hit, to be able to drive the club with the right arm, the hands must first drop back down to shoulder height, instead of doing this, most people pull the club down from the get go, once the pull has started there can be no push/drive. So basically you have setup to hit, gone back with a no roll type feel in the backswing, yet there is a pull to start down, and all of a sudden more closing is being added to the face on the way down and the ball goes left.

Hitting can be so simple and effective, but it is imperative you actually make sure you are hitting and driving that arm, not mixing motions.

To recap:

Take that onplane right flying wedge straight up plane (no roll) to a position where your hands are around the height of your right shoulder, right shoulder should now be in a backstop type position. From there the right shoulder drives down at the ball providing the initial thrust, this thrust is transferred into the right arm which continues to DRIVE down and out. From there on it is happy days

There is probably some more that can be added, but I am sure the masters of the HIT Yoda and Ted can add some good info on top of this and fill in my mistakes

I understand the limitations of not having a camera etc,, I guess you will just have to LOOK LOOK LOOK a bit more carefully

Pulling back your arm as if to punch: this is why I said in my post, this is purely to display a hitters right shoulder movement, not arm movement... So forget where the hands are in that example and check out what your right shoulder is doing.

Check out Yoda's right arm holies and polies video the main site to get and good idea of what the arms (specifically the right arm) should be doing around the release interval.

With your question, initially the crossline hip slide takes up the slack in the shoulder girdles, it is not a dramatic slide. The right shoulder then drives until the elbow is back on plane and the hands are at about release height, the right arm absorbs the thrust of the right shoulder and the right arm continues this drive right on through the ball.

I really like the simplicity of the idea of trying to punch the ball on the ground with your right fist owing to my troubled upbringing in Chicago. :laughing9

THE HANDS MUST GO STRAIGHT UP-PLANE AND BACK STOPPING AT THE SHOULDER OR YOU ARE GOING TO CONFUSE YOUR MACHINE TO DRAG THE LAG INSTEAD OF DRIVING OR PUNCHING THE LAG STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE BALL!

I HAVE DONE THIS CORRECTLY A COUPLE OF TIMES BUT THE PRECISION MUST BE MASTERED FOR YOU TO GET CONSISTENT DISTANCES OR YOU WILL FLY WELL OVER THE GREENS AND SIMPLY GIVE MONEY TO YOUR PLAYING PARTNERS. :crybaby:

http://youtu.be/08k4R6SlbZI

IC T

Back to Swinging-The Rope Pull Technique

Am I looking at it here in this video? Is a Left Wrist Throw the same as the Rope Pull Technique?

http://youtu.be/vVws0CQqTDc

Hope this helps lots of people

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 85085)

Patrick,

It really started clicking for me again when I remembered YODA talking about staying away from the "perverted idea of axis tilt." What a HUGE difference. Create axis tilt while keeping the head CENTERED and a slight forward bump of the left hip, rather than letting the head drop back. HUGE.

Do you remember where I heard that comment from YODA? I have so many of his vids I don't know where to start to find it...

KC

Here's the film, Kevin.

http://youtu.be/1y2fH0ooCoQ

Ic T

Good find. Thanks Patrick!!!

Rope Handle Technique

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 85123)

Back to Swinging-The Rope Pull Technique

Am I looking at it here in this video? Is a Left Wrist Throw the same as the Rope Pull Technique?

http://youtu.be/vVws0CQqTDc

I would like to understand this technique because I think it is a power source.

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Originally posted by Matthew

Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the “Swinger,” an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick start Down to Release. Start the Club down as though it were being drawn from a quiver like an arrow – feathered end first. Maintain this motion until the Release switches ends. This is possible only if, and for as long as, Inertia can hold the Clubhead inside the arc of the Hands or hold to a Line Delivery Path (2-L) Centrifugal Force will set in when the Clubhead crosses to the outside and it will begin to pull into its own incidental orbit per 2-P and 2-K#5. Then further acceleration can be applied only at pressure Point #1 to support the Pull on the Clubshaft – especially for the Short Shot Power.

Develop an “Instant Acceleration” Hip Action” (to the Desired Hand speed per 10-15-B) so that the Throw Out Action (6-B-3) can immediately set up the Rhythm and take over the rest of the Downsroke sequence (6-M-1). See 2-K and 6-F-0. With or without Wristcock, always Drag (or Pull 10-3-D) a swinging club Down Plane – even with only centrifugal (Angular) Momentum (2-K)See 10- 23-C

For Clubhead Throwaway Prevention, monitor the pull of Centrifugal Force and the Drag of the Lagging Clubhead.

Let the research begin! :laughing9

IC T

What is the orientation of "lengthwise" here?

"an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise"