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12 piece bucket 11-13-2009 12:14 AM

Here's you some stayin' squated . . .












O.B.Left 11-13-2009 12:36 AM

So my German Canadian friend's "power schqvatt is real?" . He sometimes even yells "unt fire" at top and "himmelllllllll" when it actually works. Im not kidding here, no politically not correct jokes being made here, I play with this guy almost every other day. He is also the originator of "ass back golf" and "just watch the flag boys" which was famously accompanied by a big splash in the lake.

Und power schqvatt , unt fireeeeeeee....... HImeeeeeeellllllllllll l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O.B.Left 11-13-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 68908)
Homer Kelley viewed the Stationary Head as a geometric ideal, not as a mechanical absolute.

He recognized our humanity.

Hence, his advice:

"Just keep it as still as you can."

:salut:



Now try to find this somewhere else folks. Thanks Yoda. Makes sense to me. The first sentence is worthy of sober second thought .........which Ill do tomorrow.

12 piece bucket 11-13-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 68916)
So my German Canadian friend's "power schqvatt is real?" . He sometimes even yells "unt fire" at top and "himmelllllllll" when it actually works. Im not kidding here, no politically not correct jokes being made here, I play with this guy almost every other day. He is also the originator of "ass back golf" and "just watch the flag boys" which was famously accompanied by a big splash in the lake.

Und power schqvatt , unt fireeeeeeee....... HImeeeeeeellllllllllll l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I may have to borrow that "just watch the flag boys." . . . that's awesome.

O.B.Left 11-13-2009 01:25 AM

I nearly wet myself when it came down in the lake about 20 yards short of the green. Frig that was funny.

12 piece bucket 11-13-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 68921)
I nearly wet myself when it came down in the lake about 20 yards short of the green. Frig that was funny.

No question top-shelf quality there . . . that's the kinda man I'd axe out on a date.

GPStyles 11-13-2009 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 68920)
I may have to borrow that "just watch the flag boys." . . . that's awesome.


lol, I think its going into my bag as well!

okie 11-13-2009 10:19 AM

Fovial field, huh? The old-timers knew best. Has anyone stood to the ball better than Hogan? Mechanical advantage should be the mantra...er after psychological needs! I have "defended" BG's posture to a "straight back" proponent. He made the point that the chin has to be off the chest in order for the shoulder to turn properly under it. Do you think that is a necessary compensation for a shoulder turn takeaway? Hogan looks way more comfy, nothing contrived.

okie 11-13-2009 10:23 AM

I love Palmer's "right arm participation" Speaking of which did anyone see the Hunter Mahan swing sequence in Golf Digest? I was flipping through the latest addition in a store (waiting for the wife to buy something else we desperately need) and I happened to see it with a Byron Nelson comparison. I really like his pattern.

12 piece bucket 11-13-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by okie (Post 68928)
Fovial field, huh? The old-timers knew best. Has anyone stood to the ball better than Hogan? Mechanical advantage should be the mantra...er after psychological needs! I have "defended" BG's posture to a "straight back" proponent. He made the point that the chin has to be off the chest in order for the shoulder to turn properly under it. Do you think that is a necessary compensation for a shoulder turn takeaway? Hogan looks way more comfy, nothing contrived.

Who can see the ball easier . . . .



Bob fixin' to start . . . .



Now the head is BELOW the cat's shoulder in the back of Eldrick . . . Some power there though . . .



Check the straightness of the left knees and imagine a line up from the left ankle . . . one knee outside the ankle one knee in line. Who's startin' to squash bugs with the right toe?



One head going back . . .





Based on head position who has more control over their hinge action? Both had bad wheels but one from a wreck . . . .




Two great swings for sure . . . but I take Hogan.

Daryl 11-13-2009 04:21 PM

I'll take Tiger. And his boat too. And his cars.

Burner 11-13-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 68939)
I'll take Tiger. And his boat too. And his cars.

So whats up with Elin then :confused1 You spoiled for choice:?

Daryl 11-13-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Burner (Post 68940)
So whats up with Elin then :confused1 You spoiled for choice:?

Hmm? Boats and cars don't talk.

O.B.Left 11-14-2009 01:46 PM

Im with you Bucket.

Tigers head does bob and sway back some. These are driver swings and could be considered a specialty shot of sorts, where distance may be acquired at the expense of balance or accuracy even.

So with that in mind, how does the squat work, what does it add to the shot? Homer called it a sit down position I think. You can squat and not sway, but a squat would always see a bob wouldnt it? Body levers down then up from the waist etc is this Morad maybe?

Lay it on us. Thanks


Wait I was just thinking.......if I was chopping wood a pure vertical deal, Id squat in transition. Is the squat an indicator of an application of force Downward. Down being the often missing dimension? Wood chopping vertical vs t ball horizontal motion. Hmm

BerntR 11-14-2009 07:19 PM

I think a squat position is a good place to support slide and turn. And to do so without any of the dancing from the 70's. But bobbing doesn't have to be included. The squat position can be taken at address. Extra knee bend is all it takes. And perhaps a more upright upper body. So not exactly the classical stance.

It works well to support a flat shoulder turn & max clubhead path, and gives a great fealing of striking the ball from the feet.

I've never figured out Tiger's golf swing. His swing center seems to be all over the place. But I guess as long as all his swing centers are on the same flat plane he can get away with it.

12 piece bucket 11-15-2009 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 68960)

Wait I was just thinking.......if I was chopping wood a pure vertical deal, Id squat in transition. Is the squat an indicator of an application of force Downward. Down being the often missing dimension? Wood chopping vertical vs t ball horizontal motion. Hmm

Precisely . . . so the plane of motion is different in golf right . . . so there is that vertical component in the ground force and also a forward component too . . . so if you look at eldrick at address . . . consider him "squated" right (waist bend) . . . he loses that waist bend to some extent on the backstroke . . . and then adds it back but FARTHER DOWN HIS STANCE LINE at "sit down" . . . you'll note that Hogan does this same move WITHOUT his head going down. (could be that vision deal . . . why else would he do it?) . . . Hogan is squatty with his hips farther forward than eldrick. The tale tale sign is the the left knee and how long it stays bent (hogan's longer) . . so his hips go more forward . . . soon as the left knee straightens up the hips are going to start to rotate and/or the head tilts back. With that whole axe deal . . . in golf from the top you are delivering the axe to the ground via the squat but you are pulling it up outta the ground via swinging from the feet . . . getting your pivot segments from out of line to in line ankles knees waist bend spine etc. and WHEN and WHERE you do it has implications on the LOC. You'll observe that dudes that really knock the frost off the punkin do this BIG TIME . . . see below








O.B.Left 11-15-2009 12:47 AM

I gotta chew on this for a bit, thanks. Fo sure we all think golf is more T ball than wood chopin, which we shouldnt.

Great stuff. I need to incubate it all for a while. Direction of force, zone 1, weight shift, etc etc. We swing the club but the club swings us too.

There is more down to found.

YodasLuke 11-15-2009 10:42 AM

one word for this post...
 
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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 68948)
Hmm? Boats and cars don't talk.

Classic!!!!!!


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