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BerntR 01-15-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 81356)
Homer used crankshaft RPM as the model. Even though the piston is connected to a crankshaft spinning at 3000RPM, the piston is going from 0 to 75MPH in less than 9 inches (my rough estimate). If there was a way to measure piston RPM, it would be much higher than the crankshaft as it accelerates to full extension, but that's not the what the gauge on my car is measuring. In the golfing machine, the crankshaft is the left arm flying wedge rotating through impact. Everything supporting that includes spark plugs, fuel, air, and oil. If those are out of whack, its time for a tune up.

Thanks for great clarification effort Bagger,

That could mean that TGM basic RPM in the definition refers to the RPM of the hands.

Bagger Lance 01-15-2011 06:30 PM

Air,
I gotta take your vids of Hibbard and Clement down. No offense, but they aren't LBG certified instructors and they aren't talking about Golfing Machine Rhythm. Their's is the popular definition.

Rhythm and Tempo can be related, but they are not the same in the golfing machine.

And I'd like 20 minutes of my life back please.:laughing9

airair 01-15-2011 06:38 PM

Sorry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 81383)
Air,
I gotta take your vids of Hibbard and Clement down. No offense, but they aren't LBG certified instructors and they aren't talking about Golfing Machine Rhythm. Their's is the popular definition.

Rhythm and Tempo can be related, but they are not the same in the golfing machine.

And I'd like 20 minutes of my life back please.:laughing9

:sad2: ....

I thought Hibbard's movements reminded me of the MacDonald drills.

BerntR 01-15-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 81359)
Im just reading all of these posts for the first time. Interesting stuff.

Hope Im not covering old ground but BerntR from a pure golf perspective Ive always considered the flat left wrist to be a Rhythm enabler and "ROLLING" as a Flat Left Wrist maintainer. Is this correct in a scientific sense or is this just a golfer talking feels or something?

To my mind its as if the left wrist will be broken by an insurmountable force unless its rolled in some manner. Hence you cant try to merely hold it flat , you have to Roll it flat..... to coin a phrase.

My apologies if Im digressing or regressing conversationally.

That's how I see it too.

In theory I guess you could use a strong double action grip, just cock and recock both hands through the swing - angled hinging without turn and roll. But I guess it would be very difficult to monitor and control the club that way.

Daryl 01-15-2011 06:51 PM

Angular Speed - RPM - Rhythm

The Left Wrist and Clubhead should travel at the same Angular Speed.

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2-P.....The true Angular Speed (RPM) of the Clubhead is identical to that of the Hands due to the mandatory Flat Left Wrist. See 2-N-1 and sketch 2-K#5. So as the Clubhead moves from minimum to maximum radius, its Surface Speed (6-N-0) in miles per hour (MPH) increases geometrically.
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6-N-0.....The earlier in the Downstroke the Release occurs, the larger, longer and slower the Release Arc will be for both Clubhead and Hands. Other things being equal, this will require higher Hand Speed to produce yardages equivalent to that of the short quick arc of Maximum Delay. This involves Angular Speed which is measured by the number of degrees of an Arc through which the motion moves per second. From Release to Impact is just so many degrees of travel – at the Left Shoulder and/or at the Left Wrist. Doubling the travel time (for instance) halves the travel rate. Also see 2-P and 7-23.
One of my favorites,
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7-23...The sharpness of the arcs at either end of “Line” Paths determines how much of that “Line” can remain and how much the change from Linear Speed (Downstroke) to Angular Speed (Release) will increase Clubhead Speed without changing Hand Speed – the “Endless Belt Effect” of #3 Accumulator per 2-K#6 and 6-B-3-B.

BerntR 01-15-2011 07:11 PM

Yes.

The hands are attached to the club so the angular speed will be the same. But the arms will have lower angular speed. Both Accumulator #2 and #3 are enablers for higher angular speed in the club than in the arms.

Bagger Lance 01-15-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 81384)
:sad2: ....

I thought Hibbard's movements reminded me of the MacDonald drills.

Yes, there was some MacDonald Drills in there. Its the instructor thing. Can't promote others outside of our circle of friends without Yoda's OK.

Don't be sad, we'll get this all worked out. Its a complex subject and Bucket beat me up pretty good in our last round.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread4716.html

airair 01-15-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 81391)
Yes, there was some MacDonald Drills in there. Its the instructor thing. Can't promote others outside of our circle of friends without Yoda's OK.

Don't be sad, we'll get this all worked out. Its a complex subject and Bucket beat me up pretty good in our last round.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread4716.html

No problem. I'm not that sad after all. :crybaby:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL7mF...eature=related

Bagger Lance 01-15-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 81390)
Yes.

The hands are attached to the club so the angular speed will be the same. But the arms will have lower angular speed. Both Accumulator #2 and #3 are enablers for higher angular speed in the club than in the arms.

Agreed, but angular speed is measured in RPM, so even though the club is traveling faster in MPH in relation to the left arm, RPM is the same because left arm, left wrist and club are in line.

Nice references Daryl. Made me look at 2K-5 and low and behold, #3 roll power. Look carefully at the difference between 2K-4 and 5. There'in is rhythm.

airair 01-15-2011 08:38 PM

Lucky is a golfer who can say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIpNepgmCQA&NR=1


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