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Yoda 10-05-2006 10:59 AM

The Throws -- Release Triggers
 
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Originally Posted by noproblemos

Yoda,

I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Thanks for your comments on our video, noproblemos. We appreciate them!

I am sure there are many references to the various "Throws" in my posts. Search the Archives for the Release Triggers (10-20). That is what the Throws are -- the five Release Triggers.

mb6606 10-05-2006 11:30 AM

Jeff clearly shows how the club head swivels against the plane on the back swing. A lot of motion in that right forearm/elbow. This one alignment seems key to letting the throw/left arm karate chop to do their powerful work. Thanks.

noproblemos 10-05-2006 01:43 PM

Thanks Yoda and Lagster for setting me straight.

This is going to turn out like the "John Riegger/Rob Noel" videos. After watching them I thought, "What are you talking about 'Basic Motion/Acquired/Total'? I didn't think those things were important!"
But after I went back to old posts on the forum, I collected about 20 pages of writings on the subject, some from over a year back.

I'm going to have some fun reading for the next several weeks, at least.

Thanks again!



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Originally Posted by Yoda
Thanks for your comments on our video, noproblemos. We appreciate them!

I am sure there are many references to the various "Throws" in my posts. Search the Archives for the Release Triggers (10-20). That is what the Throws are -- the five Release Triggers.


noproblemos 10-05-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lagster
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.

So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?

Thanks

rrabick 10-05-2006 10:01 PM

Excellent - thank you

Yoda 10-06-2006 12:40 AM

Throws In Combination
 
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Originally Posted by noproblemos

So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?

The Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E) is what you see in the video. It is preceded by the Shoulder Turn Throw (10-20-C) that "blasts" the Left Arm off the chest. In an Automatic Snap Release, the Delivery Path Throw (10-20-D) produces the Wrist Throw.

Bigwill 10-06-2006 01:22 AM

I have to say that these videos opened my eyes to a misconception that I hand about horizontal hinging. We all know that HH has a full roll feel. Well, after mimmicking what I saw on the video, I realized that HH, for me, felt like no roll at all. Then I remembered why; the left wrist stays vertical to it's associated plane. My full roll feel was actually overrolling. Remember, Will, the Hinge pin is in the shoulder, not the wrist:eyes: .

Keep those videos comin'. The visuals and associated explanations have really made learning TGM PROPERLY a lot easier. Not a replacement for a competent AI, but extremely helpful in lieu of.

noproblemos 10-06-2006 11:26 AM

Is this the wrong place to ask this question?:

What is the difference between non-automatic vs automatic release? Is non-automatic just to make it more of a sweep release?

Martee 10-08-2006 10:59 AM

Great Stuff Man!!! - Incubation #1
 
Gotta say, The Jeff Hull Video Series has become one of my all time favorites. I would estimate that I have spent at least 8 hours of watching them, be it in total or parts. They be GREAT!!!!

Some questions or points of clarifications (Sorry no particular order, just as they rolled out of the incubator)

1. In the third segment, about 70 seconds into it, Lynn begins to discuss the Acquired Motion, but I think it is just a mis-statement, he said "before in the Acquired Motion" (I think this should be Basic Motion) that it was either left arm pull or right arm push.... Not a biggie, I just want to make sure I didn't turn left when everyone else turned right. It should have been Basic Motion?

2. Jeff your waggle at address, on the Total Motion it appears that it is with the club above the ball at start whereas for the Basic and Acquire, the club head appeared to be at ground level. Is this normal, if so what is the reason or was this because of this being a demonstration?

3. What starts your waggle? Does the Tempo of your waggle relate to the shot at hand?

4. Jeff do you have a plane shift? I ask because in the first segment, you take a practice motion and then on your actual stroke it appears that you go to the spot, shoulder height, then up a bit to the top/end? Something on the order of single shift or maybe a double shift.

5. On Basic Motion, some of the shots appear as if the bending of the right wrist is increase at either the end of the back stroke or at the beginning of the down stroke. Is this something you try to do or is this, for the lack of a better words, some form of loading/setting to max out the distance on Basic Motion?

By the way, your shot looking at the camera while hitting was really impressive.

Thanks again for you time and effort in providing this great video series.

Yoda 10-08-2006 12:05 PM

Summarizing the Basic Motion Curriculum
 
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Originally Posted by Martee

In the third segment, about 70 seconds into it, Lynn begins to discuss the Acquired Motion, but I think it is just a mis-statement, he say before in the Acquired Motion (I think this should be Basic Motion) that it was either left arm pull or right arm push.... Not a biggie, I just want to make sure I didn't turn left when everyone else turned right. It should have been Basic Motion?

Yes, Martee, the same thing jumped out at me. As we moved into the Acquired Motion segment, I briefly summarized the immediately preceding Basic Motion and mistakenly said "Acquired" instead of "Basic." Oh well, the joys of the 'live' presentation! Fortunately, I later made a similar reference and got it right.

For the record, the Basic Motion (Stage One) is all about the Basic Body Positions, the Power Package alignments and the Arm Accumulators. The Acquired Motion (Stage Two) introduces Body Motion and the Hand Action Accumulators. The Total Motion (Stage Three) moves toward unrestricted motion, but still at less than full Power until alignments are perfected.

Stage Three is done first with the Middle Irons and then repeated with the Long Irons and Woods. Consequently, as Homer Kelley described it to me, there are actually five Stages in the Basic Motion Curriculum, not three.


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