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Weightshift 06-06-2006 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Raised Hands/Lowered Hands...Splain!!! Thru Impack?

NO! I presume Homer was telling us that IF the Hands have been lowered early, it in itself indicates a large pulley i.e. an early hit.

Try to uncoil compactly (hands higher i.e. within the coil) for a smaller pulley effect.

annikan skywalker 06-06-2006 10:26 PM

I'm lost...where in the book does Homer ever say coil? and what does it have to do with raised or lowered hands?....When #3 Accumulator Angle decreased is raises your hands through Impack and sharp #3 is lowered hands through Impack...maybe... I truly am LOST!!!!:sad2:

Weightshift 06-07-2006 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
I'm lost...where in the book does Homer ever say coil? and what does it have to do with raised or lowered hands?....When #3 Accumulator Angle decreased is raises your hands through Impack and sharp #3 is lowered hands through Impack...maybe... I truly am LOST!!!!:sad2:

I'm open to correction but the usage of 'small pulley' by Homer was one phrase I immediately understood based on my knowledge of Dante.

annikan skywalker 06-09-2006 08:27 PM

Yoda???

I'm gonna become a ...

:crybaby:


If I don't hear from you on this one!!!

lagster 06-09-2006 11:32 PM

Raised/ Lowered
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Yoda???

I'm gonna become a ...

:crybaby:


If I don't hear from you on this one!!!

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I hope Mr. yoda chimes in on the 7-18 section dealing with RAISED and LOWERED HANDS. Some of this information is in 6-N-O, but no mention of raised and lowered hands.

Do the Maximum Trigger delay guys, like Sergio, have raised hands?

Weightshift 06-10-2006 10:30 PM

There are another indirect references to small and large pulleys (in my opinion) in 2-K and 6-C-2-B (my comments in bold)

2-K
...
Rotation induces a Throw-Out action, pulling the centers of gravity of every moveable component, In-Line and On-Plane with its axis or center, whether or not they were originally In-Line or On-Plane. With a short radius [small pulley] it can accelerate easily, and quickly acquire considerable Angular Velocity. If a portion of this mass moves to a longer radius [larger pulley], the slowing effect (6-C-2-B) must be computed on the basis of the total mass AS LONG AS THE PORTION IS BEING PROPELLED BY THE TOTAL. That is - the slowdown would be in the same ratio that the portion has to the whole - the original central mass.

6-C-2-B ANGULAR ACCELERATION The Clubhead "Overtaking" speed is governed by the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum whereby the increased Mass resulting from any extension of the Swing Radius [larger pulley] decelerates the Hands and unless they are supported by Power Package Thrust (6-B-1) or Throw Out Action (2-K), can result in great loss of Clubhead Speed.

I originally gave the example of an ice skater who spins faster when she draws in her arms, and spins slower when she stretches out her arms. It is the same in the golfswing.

tongzilla 06-11-2006 06:04 PM

Annikan, we've discussed this before and you know this already!
Lower hands = greater Accumulator #3 angle = an earlier Release everything thing else being the same.

Mike O 06-12-2006 12:32 AM

pulleys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weightshift
There are another indirect references to small and large pulleys (in my opinion) in 2-K and 6-C-2-B (my comments in bold)

2-K
...
Rotation induces a Throw-Out action, pulling the centers of gravity of every moveable component, In-Line and On-Plane with its axis or center, whether or not they were originally In-Line or On-Plane. With a short radius [small pulley] it can accelerate easily, and quickly acquire considerable Angular Velocity. If a portion of this mass moves to a longer radius [larger pulley], the slowing effect (6-C-2-B) must be computed on the basis of the total mass AS LONG AS THE PORTION IS BEING PROPELLED BY THE TOTAL. That is - the slowdown would be in the same ratio that the portion has to the whole - the original central mass.

6-C-2-B ANGULAR ACCELERATION The Clubhead "Overtaking" speed is governed by the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum whereby the increased Mass resulting from any extension of the Swing Radius [larger pulley] decelerates the Hands and unless they are supported by Power Package Thrust (6-B-1) or Throw Out Action (2-K), can result in great loss of Clubhead Speed.

I originally gave the example of an ice skater who spins faster when she draws in her arms, and spins slower when she stretches out her arms. It is the same in the golfswing.

Weightshift,
My input would be that small and large pulleys- in the Golfing Machine - are concepts used for the power package and the four power accumulators in reference to the endless belt effect. If they release early then the endless belt effect is considered to have a large pulley- if they release late then the endless belt effect is considered to have a small pulley.

Swing radius is a separate issue from pulleys in the Golfing Machine. For example, swing radius can be lengthened by having pivot lag to the feet or shortened by losing pivot lag. So on the downswing you could have a larger pulley of the endless belt effect if you released the accumulators early as a result of shortening the swing radius by losing pivot lag.

Tong,
I think that's part of the problem that Annikan's having with weightshifts posts- in addition to Annikan's other issue - that Weight shift is using the concept raised or lowered hands to some relationship of the hands to the body say at start down- as opposed to the golfing machine concept of raised hands at address when you take your grip means that you'll have less #3 accumulator or lowered hands means you'll have a larger #3 accumulator.

12 piece bucket 06-12-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O
Weightshift,
My input would be that small and large pulleys- in the Golfing Machine - are concepts used for the power package and the four power accumulators in reference to the endless belt effect. If they release early then the endless belt effect is considered to have a large pulley- if they release late then the endless belt effect is considered to have a small pulley.

Swing radius is a separate issue from pulleys in the Golfing Machine. For example, swing radius can be lengthened by having pivot lag to the feet or shortened by losing pivot lag. So on the downswing you could have a larger pulley of the endless belt effect if you released the accumulators early as a result of shortening the swing radius by losing pivot lag.

Tong,
I think that's part of the problem that Annikan's having with weightshifts posts- in addition to Annikan's other issue - that Weight shift is using the concept raised or lowered hands to some relationship of the hands to the body say at start down- as opposed to the golfing machine concept of raised hands at address when you take your grip means that you'll have less #3 accumulator or lowered hands means you'll have a larger #3 accumulator.

Mike O-so-damn-crazy. This is off topic . . . but how do the Hands dictate to the FEETS? And can the Hands produce Pivot Lag or is Pivot Lag isolated to the Pivot?

I'm sending you some frightening pictures too :eyes:

tongzilla 06-12-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
...how do the Hands dictate to the FEETS? And can the Hands produce Pivot Lag or is Pivot Lag isolated to the Pivot?

Pavolian conditioning.
Mike can explain...


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