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EdZ
I hope you don't mind. I just printed this and will take it to this afternoon's practice.

I wish I were smarter quite often!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 83426)

And some other worthy observations by EDZ

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ighlight=Flail # 11

I have a lot to un-practice!

ICT

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Originally Posted by ColtsFan (Post 83529)

I find it easier to flip w/ the driver. Hitting it fat or thin, the usual result of throw away or flip can be disguised w/ a driver since it's up in the air.

OB and Daryl and Lynn, Kevin and Jerry, I'm sorry I have been such an idiot for so long!

Guess who finally figured out that the FLW should be a FLW at TOP DURRRRRRR!!!!! Reading the Forums tipped me off!
:sad2:

When my FLW is FLW everywhere, and my head is still, my FLW UNCOCKS WITH A TIP OF THE LEFT SHOULDER AND THE CLUB GOES ZOOM AND THE BALL GOES PRETTY FAR IN THE AIR!!!!

I started reading about Mike Austin in the Forums here, and I ordered the "Pause -N-Go" orange thingy (PNGOT) from NZ and it made my BRW BEND AND NOT COCK! DURRRRRRRR!!

And the PNGOT showed me the perfect (for me) TGM grip pressure which was a lot stronger in my FLW and more loose in my BRW. And I saw the Baseline of the Plane and my club handle at top pointing at the BLP!!! And I bumped my hip and my hands fell DOWN and the ball went on a "climbing the hill " trajectory and landed softly with I think an Automatic Snap Release!

Though It was 40 degrees, and our club champ shot an 85, I held him off for most of the round with a 92 and my 10.9 strokes. More later.

OM GOSH! (continued)

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 83592)

OB and Daryl and Lynn, Kevin and Jerry, I'm sorry I have been such an idiot for so long!

Guess who finally figured out that the FLW should be a FLW at TOP DURRRRRRR!!!!! Reading the Forums tipped me off!
:sad2:

When my FLW is FLW everywhere, and my head is still, my FLW UNCOCKS WITH A TIP OF THE LEFT SHOULDER AND THE CLUB GOES ZOOM AND THE BALL GOESPRETTY FAR IN THE AIR!!!!

I started reading about Mike Austin in the Forums here, and I ordered the "Pause -N-Go" orange thingy (PNGOT) from NZ and it made my BRW BEND AND NOT COCK! DURRRRRRRR!!

And the PNGOT showed me the perfect (for me) TGM grip pressure which was a lot stronger in my FLW and more loose in my BRW. And I saw the Baseline of the Plane and my club handle at top pointing at the BLP!!! And I bumped my hip and my hands fell DOWN and the ball went on a "climbing the hill " trajectory and landed softly with I think an Automatic Snap Release!

Though It was 40 degrees, and our club champ shot an 85, I held him off for most of the round with a 92 and my 10.9 strokes. More later.

Now sports fans in the free world, unlike those sports fans in non-democratic areas, you might wonder how ICT managed to get a 10.9 GHIN rating not knowing these things. :confused1

Good question. Extensor Action was sometimes perfect for me and though I didn't understand why, there have been days when I hit my two hybrids (thanks JerryG and KevCarter) from 200-169 yards on the green or very close to the green. LET ME STRESS THAT MANY OF THE THINGS I DID NOT UNDERSTAND DID NOT CANCEL THE LITTLE FACTS I DID UNDERSTAND. MY STIFF EA OVERRODE MY IGNORANCE AND ALLOWED ME A CORRECT IMPACT, THAT IS A MORE CORRECT IMPACT. And some days my putts went in and my chips were very good, again, heavy EA gave me great confidence to know my club face would impact the ball at just the right place. I can't tell you how often I could bump and run a ball within a few feet of a pin by using a stiff EA with a 9 iron or PW from 110 yards and in.

This year, my heavy bulls eye putter covers lots of my errors by simply getting the ball to the whole powering through breaks.

The PNGOT did not explain any of this to me, let me stress. The Mike Austin descendants may not even know about TGM (though I would bet they did). But their little device from NZ kept my BRW and FLW intact in the back swing. Lynn Blake Golf explained those terms to me and what to do with the FLW and BRW.

Something else. When I see Lynn pretty soon, I'm sure he will have genuine insight as to my compensations and power leaks.

With my new insights, I have gone to the range and did the right-left-right MacDonald drills and hit shots that shot low and crested high before softly landing. That was Swinging. I hit my Titleist Z-Backs further than my cavity backs by a club. (But man do they hurt when I miss!).

My Z-Back 4 iron was 170 yards perfect trajectory into a 3 club wind with dead range balls. I think Lynn might possibly have 40 tips or so on how to get a little closer to the 260 yard range that a pro has for a 4-iron! :)

So I'm just beginning to find the opening notes of the TGM song. :laughing1

One other thing. Now that I could see the Baseline of the Plane and knew I was on it at Top, I thought that I should try RFT and that magic bag.

I RFT'd with light EA to shoulder level on plane. Guess what? If you fire your right hand at the ball, the club hits it and the ball goes where you aimed! I did it repeatedly. My distance was shorter than Swinging, but I need Lynn's help on that, too.

I have questions of course.

1) Is it necessary or good to lag the club back looking at the ball for both Swinging and Hitting?

2) When Swinging, it seems like RFT works great. But if I keep my weight on my left foot and do a Ben Hogan move as described by VJ, that seems to work pretty well, too. How do I really, really, really, throw the club head down hard!?

I plant my left foot, turn my belly button, pop my elbow and bump my hip and they all work but my power is limited. I'm psyched about the ball flight and the dependability of the trajectory, but if there are too many compensations, there is no power.

The driver is better too. Proper pressure on the wedges which are on plane mean I can snap that driver and there is a real acceleration and a snap coming off the club face.

Anyway, I feel like I'm where I need to be to get real profit from spending time with Lynn. At least I'll have an idea of what FLW/BRW really means.

ICT

Asked and answered in the Forums

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 83595)

Now sports fans in the free world, unlike those sports fans in non-democratic areas, you might wonder how ICT managed to get a 10.9 GHIN rating not knowing these things. :confused1

Good question. Extensor Action was sometimes perfect for me and though I didn't understand why, there have been days when I hit my two hybrids (thanks JerryG and KevCarter) from 200-169 yards on the green or very close to the green. LET ME STRESS THAT MANY OF THE THINGS I DID NOT UNDERSTAND DID NOT CANCEL THE LITTLE FACTS I DID UNDERSTAND. MY STIFF EA OVERRODE MY IGNORANCE AND ALLOWED ME A CORRECT IMPACT, THAT IS A MORE CORRECT IMPACT. And some days my putts went in and my chips were very good, again, heavy EA gave me great confidence to know my club face would impact the ball at just the right place. I can't tell you how often I could bump and run a ball within a few feet of a pin by using a stiff EA with a 9 iron or PW from 110 yards and in.

This year, my heavy bulls eye putter covers lots of my errors by simply getting the ball to the hole powering through breaks.

The PNGOT did not explain any of this to me, let me stress. The Mike Austin descendants may not even know about TGM (though I would bet they did). But their little device from NZ kept my BRW and FLW intact in the back swing. Lynn Blake Golf explained those terms to me and what to do with the FLW and BRW.

Something else. When I see Lynn pretty soon, I'm sure he will have genuine insight as to my compensations and power leaks.

With my new insights, I have gone to the range and did the right-left-right MacDonald drills and hit shots that shot low and crested high before softly landing. That was Swinging. I hit my Titleist Z-Backs further than my cavity backs by a club. (But man do they hurt when I miss!).

My Z-Back 4 iron was 170 yards perfect trajectory into a 3 club wind with dead range balls. I think Lynn might possibly have 40 tips or so on how to get a little closer to the 260 yard range that a pro has for a 4-iron! :)

So I'm just beginning to find the opening notes of the TGM song. :laughing1

One other thing. Now that I could see the Baseline of the Plane and knew I was on it at Top, I thought that I should try RFT and that magic bag.

I RFT'd with light EA to shoulder level on plane. Guess what? If you fire your right hand at the ball, the club hits it and the ball goes where you aimed! I did it repeatedly. My distance was shorter than Swinging, but I need Lynn's help on that, too.

I have questions of course.

1) Is it necessary or good to lag the club back looking at the ball for both Swinging and Hitting?

2) When Swinging, it seems like RFT works great. But if I keep my weight on my left foot and do a Ben Hogan move as described by VJ, that seems to work pretty well, too. How do I really, really, really, throw the club head down hard!?

I plant my left foot, turn my belly button, pop my elbow and bump my hip and they all work but my power is limited. I'm psyched about the ball flight and the dependability of the trajectory, but if there are too many compensations, there is no power.

The driver is better too. Proper pressure on the wedges which are on plane mean I can snap that driver and there is a real acceleration and a snap coming off the club face.

Anyway, I feel like I'm where I need to be to get real profit from spending time with Lynn. At least I'll have an idea of what FLW/BRW really means.

ICT

The question is, how do I throw most effectively?

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QUOTE]A Rose By Any Other Name (Is Still A Rose)
Originally Posted by DDL
I am starting to hate the aiming point procedure described in TGM, which induces 'flippyness' of the wrists. I never saw the Ben Doyle tape, but the Chuck Evans right forearm angle of approach video, the Yoda impact bag video, and your description of the Ben Doyle video all point to hands being pulled or pushed straight from the top to the impact hands location, not the ball.

Originally posted by Yoda

Correctly executed, DDL, the Aiming Point Concept (6-E-2) produces alignments identical with those of the Impact Hand Location Concept (7-8 ). The former is the indirect equivalent of the latter (6-E-1). But as Homer says, "When in doubt, there is always the Impact Fix Hand Location procedure" (6-E-2).

Note: The as-yet-unpublished 7th Edition of The Golfing Machine includes a revision to 6-E-1. In the 5th sentence (6th Edition page 82), change 'Flat Left Wrist' to 'Impact Hand Location.'
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So, the first thing I want to zero in on is how to make the most effective Throw, for Swinging, or Drive for Hitting.

ICT

Three and Four Barrels of Fun!

[quote=innercityteacher;83602]The question is, how do I throw most effectively?

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Originally posted by Yoda

Correctly executed, DDL, the Aiming Point Concept (6-E-2) produces alignments identical with those of the Impact Hand Location Concept (7-8 ). The former is the indirect equivalent of the latter (6-E-1). But as Homer says, "When in doubt, there is always the Impact Fix Hand Location procedure" (6-E-2).

Note: The as-yet-unpublished 7th Edition of The Golfing Machine includes a revision to 6-E-1. In the 5th sentence (6th Edition page 82), change 'Flat Left Wrist' to 'Impact Hand Location.'
__________________

So, the first thing I want to zero in on is how to make the most effective Throw, for Swinging, or Drive for Hitting.

ICT

The most effective ways to Throw and Drive!

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Originally posted by Yoda

I use Three-Barrel Swinging (Power Accumulators 4/2/3). That is:

Four. Radius Power. The Left Arm; as Accelerated by the Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn -- Rotary Body Power); followed by Sequenced Release (4-D-0) of...

Two. Velocity Power. The Left Wrist Uncock (#2); and...

Three. Transfer Power. The Left Hand Swivel and Roll (#3).

All as driven by Centrifugal Force.

I use Four-Barrel Hitting (Power Accumulators 4/1/2/3). That is:

Four. Radius Power. The Left Arm; as Accelerated by...

One. Muscle Power. The Driving Right Arm and Elbow with the Right Shoulder providing the equal and opposite reaction (Launching Pad Body Power); followed by the Simultaneous Release of...

Two. Velocity Power. The Left Wrist Uncock; and...

Three. Transfer Power. The Left Hand Roll (but no Swivel).

All as driven by the Right Arm Triceps and Pectoral Muscle Power.
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ICT

Repeat after me and I'll begin.

The question is, how do I Throw and Drive most effectively?

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Originally posted by Yoda

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Swinging: My Lower Body leads and my Upper Body and Power Package lags. This Start Down Motion causes my Wrists to Cock a bit more and the Clubhead Lag to Load against my #3 Pressure Point (Right Forefinger). Since Start Up, I have been aware of a definite Extensor Action (against the #1 Pressure Point -- heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb). That Feel is accentuated by the Lead-and-Lag Start Down Motion. I sense a Gyroscopic Motion as I Pull the Club Down Plane until it is automatically Thrown-Out by Centrifugal Force in Release. I am very aware of the Left Wrist Throw through the #2 Pressure Point (the last three fingers of the Left Hand sensing the Centrifugal Left Wrist Uncock per 10-20-E). And -- from The Top (Station Two) to The Finish (Station Three) -- I Trace the Straight Plane Line with my Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point.

Hitting: Except for the Lag Loading (Drive versus Drag) , the Feel is essentially the same as above until Release. Then, the Club is Driven-Out by Right Arm Muscle Power. I am very aware of the Right Elbow's Drive againt the #1 Pressure Point per 10-20-B and my Right Shoulder acting as a Launching Pad for that Drive. As with Swinging, I Trace the Straight Plane Line with my Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point. However, because I am Actively Thrusting, I Feel the Pressure Point Combination (the Active Muscular Drive against #1 and #3) much more strongly than when Swinging (with its Passive Centrifugal Drive against #2 and #3).
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Yoda

The most effective ways to Throw and Drive!

ICT

Another Patrick from Philly?

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 83604)

The question is, how do I Throw and Drive most effectively?

The most effective ways to Throw and Drive!

ICT

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Originally posted by Yoda

Patrick,

First of all, as I begin to field answers to these wonderful questions, pleaseremember: You could write volumes on any one point in order to do it justice,fill in all the surrounding areas, and, in essence, complete the mosaicregarding that point. But there is just so much time in the day (and night!).So, let's start with something useful. then go from there.

First of all, whenever you are concerned about any particular term used in TheGolfing Machine, look first to the dictionary. One of the definitons willfit. Why? Because that was Homer's deliberate design! Early on, he struggledwith what to name his various revolutionary concepts -- the golfing world hadnot even thought of them, much less named them! -- and finallyone day, to his great relief, quoting Homer: "The incubator gave me theanswer: Just use the dictionary! If just one of the definitions fit,then I can use that word to define my concept." So, do as he did, and usethe dictionary to follow his trail of marked trees in the forest.

In my 1982 G.S.E.M. class with Homer, we did indeed discuss the Frozen RightWrist. But since you weren't there, let's do a little work and go to thedictionary. First, per definition #7 in my Webster, the word frozen means"arbitrarily kept at a fixed position." And, since that Frozen RightWrist is flying as the G.O.L.F.er executes his Motion (Basic, Aquired,or Total per 12-5), you are correct in that the word implies a 'holding' typemotion.

However, it does not follow that such a motion will dissipate the Lag. In fact,it is quite the opposite: As long as the Right Wrist maintains its Fix degreeof bend, then its complement, the Flat Left Wrist, will also be maintained.This insures compliance with the Law of the Flail per 2-K and, per 6-B-3-O-1,the structure of the Flying Wedges.

I have much more to say on this subject but no more time at the present. Thisis an important topic, and I will add a Part II (and maybe a Part III) soon.Stay tuned.

Staying tuned the Forums!

ICT

I've seen the infomercial for PNGOT some time ago and while I was attracted by the fact it would teach that the right wrist does not cock, the video also pictures a flipping of the wrist at or just post impact (bent left wrist) that some Mike Austeen followers promote but is pretty much as un-TGM as it gets as fair as I understand.

I was thinking it would be nice to have something like that combined with a concept like "The Key" or "Set & Lock" although it could become too constraining.

Feeling the FLW/BRW

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Originally Posted by Etzwane (Post 83607)

Hi Etzwane. My "aha " moment with the PNGOT (lol) was seeing how messed up my wedges were on my backswing. :naughty:

Once I corrected those wrist positions, lots of good things happened. Now, my ball flies like a real golf shot, like an inverted fish hook.

I'll show it to Lynn in a couple of weeks and get his guidance. You might be correct, I'm not Lynn or any of our talented friends. This is the start of my 13th month here, so... When I shoot multiple par/sub par rounds, I'll feel like I know something.

It's been cold here on the weekends, really cold but sunny and windy. My club champion can really bomb the ball but I am usually (last two rounds) only 30 yards behind him and the ball comes off my driver with a much sharper trajectory. Last season, I was about 50 yards behind him.

Today on the range, I recalled Harvey Pennick's "magic move" and stepped left and brought my back elbow to my side. My FLW uncocked and the driver screeched as the balls carried 200 yards straight before the first bounce. I finished with a pretty cool pose, too! :eyes:

Keep asking questions/sharing ideas. I'm learning with them! Thanks!
:salut:

ICT

Some WONDERFUL thoughts Patrick. I fear you may be tying yourself up in knots with a little too much detail. Never fear, you are close to becoming untied in Cuscowilla!

Lynn will simplify this stuff to the point you won't believe it's the same principles you are discussing, until you see the results. All this study you are doing is really going to help get Lynn's ideas programmed to the computer. I am counting the days for you buddy, I may be as excited for your trip as you are!!!

On the flat left wrist... remember, we are learning the "geometrically" flat left wrist at top. The stronger your grip, the more the left wrist will appear to be cupped at the top. Think Fred Couples. The weaker your grip, the more bowed it may appear at top. Think early Tiger woods...

Your chubby buddy.