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The comfort of the Yellow Brick Road

Quote:

Originally posted by Yoda

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...lat+left+wrist # 1

Yes, the Trevino Right Shoulder Motion through Impact is an extremelyimportant study. Per 7-13, the Right Shoulder must not only stay 'back,'but also down -- down On Plane. Otherwise, you will 'run out of Right Arm'through Impact. In other words, the Right Arm will act as a 'chain' on yourLeft and it simply cannot go through. And so no matter how much you know aboutthe Flat Left Wrist, it cannot be maintained under this circumstance, andso...it Bends! And the Shot -- and perhaps the match -- is lost.

The place to program this move is at Impact Fix (8-2 and 7-8 ). Bypre-positioning your Right Shoulder 'down On Plane,' say almost directlyopposite the Ball -- probably much lower than your presently feel -- youwill be able to extend through the Ball much further until you reach the BothArms Straight Position at the end of the Follow-Through (8-11). When youreturn to Adjusted Address from this position you will notice that you have a'lot of right arm' -- it is quite bent, even with applied extensor action --and that means that as your Right Shoulder turns through the Ball in this muchfarther way -- "chasing it" as Nick Price likes to say -- then theLeft Arm with its Flat Left Wrist can fly through Impact unimpeded by the'chain' of the Straightened Right Arm caused by the too high RightShoulder.

The reverse of this Impact Fix position would be when you prepare for a 6-inchputt. This Stroke -- as in All Strokes -- must be taken to the Both ArmsStraight Position at the end of the Follow-Through. What to do with such ashort Stroke? You pre-position your Follow-Through for the Both ArmsStraight Position almost immediately following Impact. Now your Right Shoulderwill be much higher than the pre-positioning described above. As a result,you'll have a nice firm 'no Quitting (3-F-7-B) Downstroke to the end of yourFollow-Through and your putt will rattle the hole.

By the way, for those who suffer from 'double hit' putts, this last advice isthe solution.

Stay with this idea, Hue. It is really, really key.

Yes, the Trevino Right Shoulder Motion through Impact is an extremelyimportant study. Per 7-13, the Right Shoulder must not only stay 'back,'but also down -- down On Plane. Otherwise, you will 'run out of Right Arm'through Impact. In other words, the Right Arm will act as a 'chain' on yourLeft and it simply cannot go through. And so no matter how much you know aboutthe Flat Left Wrist, it cannot be maintained under this circumstance, andso...it Bends! And the Shot -- and perhaps the match -- is lost.

The place to program this move is at Impact Fix (8-2 and 7-8 ). Bypre-positioning your Right Shoulder 'down On Plane,' say almost directlyopposite the Ball -- probably much lower than your presently feel -- youwill be able to extend through the Ball much further until you reach the BothArms Straight Position at the end of the Follow-Through (8-11). When youreturn to Adjusted Address from this position you will notice that you have a'lot of right arm' -- it is quite bent, even with applied extensor action --and that means that as your Right Shoulder turns through the Ball in this muchfarther way -- "chasing it" as Nick Price likes to say -- then theLeft Arm with its Flat Left Wrist can fly through Impact unimpeded by the'chain' of the Straightened Right Arm caused by the too high RightShoulder.

The reverse of this Impact Fix position would be when you prepare for a 6-inchputt. This Stroke -- as in All Strokes -- must be taken to the Both ArmsStraight Position at the end of the Follow-Through. What to do with such ashort Stroke? You pre-position your Follow-Through for the Both ArmsStraight Position almost immediately following Impact. Now your Right Shoulderwill be much higher than the pre-positioning described above. As a result,you'll have a nice firm 'no Quitting (3-F-7-B) Downstroke to the end of yourFollow-Through and your putt will rattle the hole.

By the way, for those who suffer from 'double hit' putts, this last advice isthe solution.

Stay with this idea, Hue. It is really, really key.

A mistake I have made often, was to get to Impact Fix but keep my hand there and not return to Standard Address. I know I can hit from Impact Fix but I do not have the skill for that, yet.

It is only possible to keep a FLW if the right shoulder is down in plane until through the ball's position.

Knowing the Pressure Points to bring a hcp. and golf course down to their knees

Originally posted by Yoda

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ressure+points # 1

Improper #3 Pressure Point Pressure causes the Right Wrist to Flatten. Remember, Power flows from its source (the Accumulators) and is applied against the Pressure Points that directly and indirectly drive the Club through Impact. Almost always, the Clubhead Lag (and Acceleration Control) is assigned to the #3 Pressure Point (6-C-2-0). This becomes the Indirect Drive of the Lever Assemblies. All other employed Pressure Points are the Direct Drive.

For Hitters, Power Accumulator #1 (6-b-1-0) drives both the #1 and #3 Pressure Points (6-C-2-C). Therefore, to maintain the Bent Right Wrist, focus through Impact on the Bent Right Arm's Direct Drive against the #1 Pressure Point (6-C-1) -- the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb. Keep the Right Forefinger 'easy' on the Club and allow the Clubhead Lag and its Indirect Drive to be accepted by the #3 Pressure Point. When you have learned to properly maintain these Direct and Indirect Drive Pressures, you will have learned to maintain the inert and Bent Right Wrist. And if you don't Feel the heel of your Right Hand Driving against your Left Thumb and your Unstressed and Bent Right Wrist trailing along behind, well...you ain't got it yet.

And how will you know when you've got it? It will sound like a 'war' in your practice area. You'll notice people staring. Maybe even gathering around. Asking you for a tip or two after you've wrapped up. Things like that. Meanwhile, while you're learning, it wouldn't hurt to watch Lee Trevino's Downstroke motion on video tape a few hundred times.
Swingers, the Indirect Drive of the Clubhead Lag is once again assigned to Pressure Point #3. The Direct Drive is supplied by the Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn (Accumulator #4) and by the Wrist Cock (Accumulator #2). Focus on the Start Down Lag Loading (Drag the Butt End of the Club Down Plane per 10-19-C) and the Sequenced Release (Uncock and Roll per 4-D-0) through Impact. Allow the Indirect Drive of the #3 Pressure Point to accept the Lag Loading and the Direct Drive of Centrifugal Force to Power the Clubhead.

ForI cannot urge strongly enough the benefit of video work in this area. Much of what is done with the video is cosmetic and ineffective. But used properly, it can lead you to Golf's Promised Land. If you can dispassionately watch through Impact your Bending Left Wrist and Flattening Right Wrist -- trust me, that is almost certainly happening -- and determine to correct it, then it can be done.

Put your Stroke on video. Try to correct your Motion as I've prescribed. It didn't work, did it? Do another video. No good. Try again. No good. Try again. Closer. More #1 Drive Out Pressure for Hitters. More #2 Throw Out Pressure for Swingers. No good. Try again. Better. Again. A lot better!

Nirvana!

Stay with it.

You can do this!

What is being spoken about here is Impact Fix for Hitters.

So let's see one of the many useful videos here at LBG:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...-ImpactBag.wmv

PP #'s 1, 2 and 3 "Dead behind the shaft!," at impact!

Impact Fix by the numbers

Here's another TGM source:

http://www.iseekgolf.com/golfinstruc...een-good-lucky

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Originally posted by Paul Smith, "Golfguru," here at LBG

Impact Fix: Difference Between Good & Lucky
BY PAUL SMITH

Fig 1
Impact Fix - Alignments

Fig 2
Fig 3
Fig 4
The Impact Fix is a feel for impact alignments, fixed in the mind and body before the swing starts. The rest of the swing feels are then fitted around it to make it easier and safer. We also have feels for the grip, stance, waggle, forward press and start up to finish, the total motion feel. If that seems complicated, that’s because it is. However, it becomes easy with time and practice as the mystery is taken out of it.

From the Face-On view (Fig 1) the left arm and the club are in line. From the Down the Line view (Fig 2), the right forearm and the shaft are in line.

Extensor action, a gentle pressure down, not towards the ball, is applied to the left arm to make the swing stable and heavy. Then stand away as far as you can with the balance point a little towards the heels.

Important details like clubface alignment and position can be included. The clubface should be slightly open for Swingers to allow for their faster slightly hook-producing clubface closing motion and square to slightly closed for Hitters to allow for their slower-rolling small slice-producing motion. If the clubhead is aligned with the sweet spot on the ball then lowered to the ground, you will notice it falls a little toward you and the ball now rests more towards the toe with the club soled.

Once the Impact Address is part of the total motion it is “fixed” in your mind, you are welcome to return to your normal hands at mid-body address position (Standard Address Fig 3 and 4) or a hybrid of the two address’s (Adjusted Address). Or you may stay in the Impact Fix Address and start your motion from there.

WHY GO TO SO MUCH TROUBLE?
Because impact is all that matters. The difference between good players and bad is the location of the hands at impact. Since this is the only location that determines success in the swing, it is worth making a study of the characteristics.

Done well, Impact Fix gives you a 90% chance of success. Your handicap, within five shots is predictable by your hands’ position at impact. The forward clubshaft lean is mandatory.

If the Number One alignment – the left arm and shaft – is bent power is lost because the club cannot be supported by pressure from the hands and arms and is now both slowing down and rising, meaning you will hit the ground or the top of the ball.

If the Number Two alignment, the right forearm and shaft is bent, once again power and precision are lost. The best engineering is available with the right forearm being in line with the shaft (Down the Line View).

How do we go about achieving this wonderful piece of golfing magic?

Naturally if you try to implement this tomorrow on the golf course, you may hurt yourself. Make it a project over six months or six years without neglecting your normal programme for R&D. This will have major implications for your golfing and family life, so make sure the business is in your name.

START SMALL
Start in front of a mirror noticing the change necessary to get from Impact Fix back somewhere to through the ball. Start at 30 cms. And work out from there. Yes, it is the first we have felt that and there is no way we can use that in a golf swing, for now.

So we start with small shots in the yard at home. Look at pictures of good players to notice things not seen before.

Like anything new it feels different because it is different and NOT because it is wrong. Notice how quickly solid shots come when starting from impact fix. Later, start with any address position. Note however, that when moving back and forth between impact fix and standard address the hands are still mid-body.

Notice how close the ball seems. That is how close it has to be to be hit. Any farther away means throwing the power away behind the ball, not through it.

Notice the angle of approach of the shaft from half-way down. That will be a new one for 90% of us, a much flatter approach, usually two to eight inches flatter. But now everything can turn through together.

Notice there is a different Impact Fix for different shots. Notice that starting from impact fix how hard it is to turn the usual amount on the backswing. Some raise their heads to get around this but that leaves an opening for total failure on the project. It is better to stay down with a shorter swing. Why go back to an inferior routine? It will not be strange for long and all that your friends see is the ball flight.

Slowly introduce the Impact Fix into the pre-shot routine in practice, then on the course perhaps after giving up on scoring efforts. Halt the project at any time but get back onto it as soon as possible.

Impact Fix will make the difference. Starting the downswing to achieve correct impact is the most difficult move in sports without Impact Fix. It shows us the station that we must pass through. With Impact Fix in mind, anyone can learn do it.

About the Author: Paul Smith
Paul Smith holds a Master Craftsman's rank certified by the Golf Clubmakers Association in the USA and is one of only 220 Authorised Instructors of The Golfing Machine (Bachelors in Golf Stroke Engineering). Clients get a first class education session whether it be fixing a swing fault or building clubs from scratch to suit a player's ability.

Read all of Paul's articles »

Lots of basics to master for a solid, basic golf stroke!

ICT

Impact and Line of Compression

Thanks to Air and all the other contributors to this fine thread which I will be studying next.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7767-65.html

Driver Impact

Using an "upper cut" motion to drive to Both Arms Straight (BAS) yielded some interesting results yesterday. The swing change produced blisters where I had not ever encountered them on my left pinky tip and on the right outside of my left index finger. I hit about 250 balls yesterday, alternating Swinging and Hitting.

Driving through to BAS had me feel the club was either level at impact or slightly on the rise. When hitting it on the rise, the carry with a range ball and 50 degrees was 210.

My backswing was below my shoulders and very, very horizontal and very dependable in Hitting a very high, straight ball with my 90 mph swing. The driver is an Adams Speedline 9.5 degrees reg shaft.

A downward swing produced a carry of about 190 yards down the middle.

I found this at ISEEKGOLF

http://www.iseekgolf.com/clubfitting...ole-in-fitting

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Wishon

Angle of Attack: Its Role in Fitting
BY TOM WISHON

Angle of Attack: Its Role in Fitting
Over the past several years, the golf industry has said in countless magazine articles that the ideal conditions for maximising driver distance is to fit the golfer into a driver that generates a high launch angle with a low amount of backspin.

Let’s take a look at that using TrackMan launch monitor data from two of the members of the PGA Tour, Bubba Watson and Charles Howell III.

We need to first state that both players are generating the optimum launch monitor results for their respective swings.

Bearing that in mind and looking at the difference in the two players’ launch angle measurements, what is missing from this analysis that could possibly account for such a big difference in these two players’ launch angle, given the fact that both players are fully optimised for their driver performance?

PLAYER BALL SPEED LAUNCH ANGLE SPIN RATE
Bubba Watson 186mph 13.5° 2200rpm
Charles Howell III 172mph 7.0° 2800rpm
ANGLE OF ATTACK
The answer lies in a parameter of the golf swing called the Angle of Attack. The Angle of Attack defines whether the clubhead is traveling on an upward, level or downward angle with respect to the ground when it moves through the impact area with the ball. In short, some golfers hit up on the ball, some hit down on the ball, and a few swing so that the head is traveling level with the ground when it hits the ball.

The Angle of Attack is hugely important in the determination of the optimum driver loft for all golfers because it has a big influence on the dynamic loft of the head at impact. An upward angle of attack increases the dynamic loft and increases the launch angle of the shot for any given static driver loft. A downward angle of attack decreases the dynamic loft and lowers the launch angle of the shot for any given static driver loft.

Now let’s add one more parameter to the information from the data collected from the TrackMan driver analysis of Bubba Watson and Charles Howell III as follows.

PLAYER BALL SPEED LAUNCH ANGLE SPIN RATE ANGLE OF ATTACK
Bubba Watson 186mph 13.5° 2200rpm +5°
Charles Howell III 172mph 7.0° 2800rpm -5°
As you can see from the additional information, Bubba Watson swings the driver with a 5° Upward Angle of Attack, while Charles Howell III swings the driver with a -5° Downward Angle of Attack.

Each golfer’s Angle of Attack is purely a product of their swing characteristics. Quite simply, some golfers simply develop different Angles of Attack into the ball as a result of various individual swing habits and characteristics. Now let’s add one more column to the chart.

PLAYER BALL SPEED LAUNCH ANGLE SPIN RATE ANGLE OF ATTACK DRIVER LOFT
Bubba Watson 186mph 13.5° 2200rpm +5° 7.5°
Charles Howell III 172mph 7.0° 2800rpm -5° 11.5°
Keep in mind that both players are fully optimised for their driver performance as a result of having gone through extensive testing with the golf companies with whom each has an equipment endorsement contract. Because of the difference in their Angles of Attack, Bubba Watson is fully optimised for his driver performance with a loft of 7.5° while Charles Howell III has to use a driver with a loft of 11.5° to be able to reach his optimum driver performance.

In other words, the more any golfer delivers the driver head to impact on a downward angle of attack, the more loft they have to use on the driver to be able to be fully optimised for distance performance. Conversely, the more the golfer brings the head to impact on an upward angle of attack, the lower loft they can use on the driver head to reach their point of distance optimisation.

What is interesting to note is the fact that the higher the loft, the more backspin is generated. Golfers with a downward angle of attack are always going to have to use a higher loft to reach their point of being optimised for distance. Higher loft always generates more backspin, so golfers with a downward angle of attack are always going to generate more backspin than golfers with an upward angle of attack.

For players with a very high ball speed such as professional tour players, more spin equates to a slight loss of distance. At ball speeds in excess of 155mph, the greater the spin, the greater the friction between the ball and the air through which the ball is flying. The more friction generated between the ball and the air, the sooner the ball’s velocity decays and the sooner the ball falls back to the ground.

DOWNWARD ANGLE OF ATTACK
A golfer with a downward angle of attack is always going to be at a disadvantage in overall driver performance to the golfer with an upward angle of attack. The more the golfer swings with a downward angle of attack, the more loft they will need to play on their driver to offset the effect of the downward angle of attack on the dynamic loft and resulting launch angle. The higher the driver loft to achieve the optimum launch angle, the more backspin is generated.

To give you an idea how much of a problem the downward angle of attack can be, let’s go back to our PGA Tour player with a downward angle of attack.

PLAYER BALL SPEED LAUNCH ANGLE SPIN RATE ANGLE OF ATTACK DRIVER LOFT CARRY DISTANCE
Charles Howell III 172mph 7.0° 2800rpm -5° 11.5° 278yds
Charles Howell III 174mph 12.8° 2100rpm +5° 8.0° 306yds
From the information, you can see that if Charles Howell III were able to somehow change his swing to be able to deliver the driver to impact with a 5° Upward Angle of Attack, he would gain a incredible amount of carry distance. However, the question certainly would be, if CH III were to embark on such a major swing change, would he still be able to retain the swing consistency necessary to take advantage of the potential for more distance.

From this we can learn a few points to keep in mind with respect to Driver performance and fitting:

Optimum launch conditions for maximum distance are primarily dependent on clubhead speed and the angle of attack
If the clubhead speed and angle of attack of the golfer is not known, it is not possible to tell from ball launch conditions if the golfer is maximising his/her potential for distance or not.
With the assistance of TrackMan, we can offer the following chart which reveals the most optimum launch parameters for maximum CARRY DISTANCE for a number of different clubhead speeds (swing speed) and different angles of attack

Keep in mind that when fairways are firm and very dry, it is always best to reduce the loft/dynamic loft/launch angle and reduce the carry distance to lower the shot trajectory and take advantage of more roll on the fairways for the greatest total distance.

OPTIMAL DRIVER LAUNCH PARAMETERS FOR MAXIMUM CARRY DISTANCE
CLUBHEAD SPEED (MPH) ANGLE OF ATTACK (DEGREES) BALL SPEED (MPH) LAUNCH ANGLE (DEGREES) SPIN AT LAUNCH (RPM) CARRY DISTANCE (YARDS) DYNAMIC LOFT AT IMPACT (DEGREES) PROBABLE DRIVER LOFT
75 -5° Down 105 14.1 3170 145 17.1 23
75 0° Level 107 16.1 2690 156 18.6 19
75 +5° Upward 109 18.9 2310 167 21 15
90 -5° Down 129 10.6 3130 195 13.1 19.5
90 0° Level 131 13.4 2700 208 15.4 15.5
90 +5° Upward 132 16.0 2210 221 17.7 11.5
105 -5° Down 153 8.0 3060 243 10.1 14.5
105 0° Level 155 10.7 2520 259 12.3 12
105 +5° Upward 156 13.8 2070 274 15.2 10
120 -5° Down 177 5.7 2880 291 7.4 12
120 0° Level 178 9.0 2430 309 10.4 10
120 +5° Upward 179 12.1 1910 326 13.2 8

About the Author: Tom Wishon
Tom Wishon is a leading golf club designer and researcher. He has designed golf clubs for famous golfers such as Ben Crenshaw and Payne Stewart. He is the author of two best-selling golf books: "The Search for the Perfect Golf Club", which was recognised by the International Network of Golf as the best golf book of 2006, and "The Search for the Perfect Driver".

Read all of Tom's articles »

Should I go to a 15.5 degree driver? 19.5 degrees? 11.5 degrees? LYnn will fit me in April for everything but what do you folks think?

It might be very cool to get a 20 degree driver and hit straight down on it and never have to differentiate between my driver swing and hybrids and irons!

ICT

Training the Uppercut

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Originally posted by Yoda

Good question.

In The Golfing Machine, the Three Stations are the Address (8-01/2/3), the Top (8-6) and the Finish (8-12) The goal is to be as preparedas possible before Start-Up, as precise as possible through the Topand as smooth and complete as possible through Impact to the properposition at the Finish.

Note that Impact (8-10) does not enjoy the rank of a Station. It simply"gets in the way" of your Delivered Clubhead. And you use theThree Zones (Chapter 9) to train your Machine to operate without interferencefrom either Club or Ball. In Zone #1 (Body / 9-1), for example, youlearn your Pivot motion without the Arms and Club to avoid awkward"hitches." In Zones #2 (Arms / 9-2) and #3 (Hands / 9-3) you learnto make their Motions without a Ball to avoid Throwaway (4-D-1) andSteering(3-F-7-A). So, once you've established your Impact Fix alignments(2-J-1) -- this is where you nail that inside-aft quadrant! -- the Ball becomesirrelevant. It could be there. Or not be there. Practice Stroke (3-F-5-1)or for real (12-5-3).

Once you've determined your Fix alignments, the Aiming Point (6-E-2)replaces the Ball. You now direct the Lag Loading (7-19) of the #3 PressurePoint at the Aiming Point as if it were the Ball. This Aiming Pointcan only be determined by experience (Practice!) only. And you will need tolearn how to direct your Thrust precisely at that point once you've learnedwhere it is.

The way to do that is explained in 6-E-2-1. At the Top, you mentally constructa line from the first joint of your Right Forefinger (#3 Pressure Point /6-C-1-3) to the Aiming Point. This becomes your Delivery Path (10-23-A or10-23-C). Practicing in slow motion -- first without a Club; then with a Clubbut no Ball -- you let a careful Downstroke Pivot (On-Plane Right Shoulder /10-13-D) deliver the Lag Pressure Loading (7-19) strongly down the StraightLine Delivery Path (of the Hands). In real time, the Club is driven stronglydownward, smashing through the Ball, through the Aiming Pointto the Low Point to the Both Arms Straight Position(Follow-Through / 8-11) from which you Swivel into your Finish.

The big idea -- if you haven't noticed! -- is "Down." StraightDown through the Aiming Point. Straight Down to the LowPoint of the Stroke. Only then, per 1-L 13/14/15, does the Club begin theUpward portion of its Orbit, and even then the Thrust continues Down Planeuntil the end of the Follow-Through (8-11).

Homer told me one time that very few golfers actually go all the way down.Almost all reach the Ball and begin their upward Motion before the LowPoint is reached. "Even Tour players," he said.

"They almost all come up, and I'm really kind of surprised when I seethem still take a divot."

I asked him for the name of a player who did go all the way down.

"Trevino," he said with a lowered voice and a growl.

"I like that guy. He hits a wedge, and you've got to help himget the club out of the ground!"

I am loving the simplicity of the "upper cut" Elbow Plane Hit. As I have become comfortable with it, I can minimize my swing to below or right at the shoulder and "C-Smack" the heck out of it.

Now that I am enjoying this Power and Predictability, Precision and Aim are needed.

With Irons, the "push-draw" looks like a straight shot and is very satisfying with an Angle Hinge. By sliding the ball forward and carrying my stride deeper, I can get a pretty satisfying 10 yard draw. I recognize that that is still too much of a draw given smaller greens and bunkers and such so I'm not likely to play anything but a push-fade.

The bigger issue is the very high floating 220 yards of carry driver I get by hitting up on the ball. I can see the temptation to get a 20 degree driver of "Biblical proportions," and with Spring winds and July-August ground hardening, simply hit down on the driver to create a more boring shot. I'm waiting 'till after Cuscowilla to make a driver purchase.

I read with great interest this note from Mr. Clarence Williams sent to Mr. Blake

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Lynn,

I just wanted to give you some feedback on how I have been progressing since our practice session on Feb 17th in Marietta.

I practiced the fundamentals on the evening of the 17th and played 9 holes the next day. I shot a 2 over par and hit all 7 fairways. I am at least 2 clubs longer now.

I practiced the next week and played 9 holes on Feb 25.I shot a 3 over and only missed one fairway.

I played on Feb 27th at course where I have not broken 94 in over 2 years and shot an 83 hitting 10 fairways and 6 greens. I am hitting it as long as the college guys now and still have more to go.

Thanks so very much for helping me get back on track.

I will contact you later this week to set up another practice session when I get a better feel for my schedule.

Clarence

I'm sure many of my concepts will be clarified during my April visit with Lynn and will try to note the precise changes Lynn makes and their beneficial effects.

ICT

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 82846)

I'm sure many of my concepts will be clarified during my April visit with Lynn and will try to note the precise changes Lynn makes and their beneficial effects.

Not feeling TOO much pressure!

:confused1

:laughing9

:salut:

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 83059)

Not feeling TOO much pressure!

:confused1

:laughing9

:salut:

LOL, if you are feeling pressure, I'm astounded. NO DOUBT in my mind how this is going to go with both my friends!!! :salut:

Kevin

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 83059)

Not feeling TOO much pressure!

:confused1

:laughing9

:salut:

Don't worry. After entertaining City for a few days of golf and keep in mind he teaches in an urban school, his expectations are not terrifically high, but his standards are beyond reproach.
Within an hour, you and anybody within earshot will be seated and avidly listening to City's highly educated banter.
In short, you are in for a real treat. The Swamp will never be the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 83059)

Not feeling TOO much pressure!

:confused1

:laughing9

:salut:

Lynn, if you can help Mr. Gay and others make millions, I'm confident you can assist me in raising sheckles off my talented club friends in" the Minneapolis/Madison/Hershey Summer of 2011 Magical Mystery Tour and Beer Fund!"

Last year, JerryG and Kevin made me stop paying after 2 days! ("Just when I thought...they pull me back in!")

I will be buying a beer or several for Daryl in Madison!

I have to be careful though, playing those men including Kevin Carter, JerryG, and Daryl. They don't fall for the artificial hip stories and the brutality of the class room stories (like the kid who set the girl on fire).

JerryG just points to his tuba playing stretch marks and his knee brace and Kevin just points to his elbow. They mumble things like "just be glad you are not as banged up as we are!"

I think Daryl will probably just pull out a diagram on an IPAD and diagram all the mistakes I've made since I joined this site last year! "He's in my head, man!"

Peace Out! :)

ICT